hehe easy to put spin on that and call it stupidity.

Though maybe i could put some agreement to that if we get invaded
and the passive aggressives resist the invasion and are making it known they
resisting.

But if they just run and hide well thats cowardly


"When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good
with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!"
Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: A good american


> Really? Given that what I have seen of pacifists, one cannot consider them
> cowards. If anything a genuine pacifist is no coward. It takes much more
> bravery to resist peacefully when every temptation is to strike out.
>
> Second I am not a mennonite or buddist. Have have known both. A good
friend
> of mine is in Peru working on a development project for the Mennonites.
> When the Shining Path was kidnapping and killing people, the Mennonites
> peacefully stood up to them. Its easy to shoot a firearm. Its far more
> difficult to peacefully resist when  you know you will most likely get
shot
> or killed because of it. That is not cowardice but bravery of the highest
> level.
>
> At 11:45 AM 6/11/2003 -0500, Doug White wrote:
> >Pacifism = COWARD   (English translation)
> >
> >Are you a Mennonite?   If so feel free to run to another country more
> >sympathetic to your views.   Time to stop being a parasite on a freedom
> >loving,
> >Patriotic Nation!
> >
> >Are you Buddhist?   The Buddhists are indeed warriors, believing that to
have
> >honorably conquered your enemy to have achieved Nirvana!
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:31 AM
> >Subject: Re: A good american
> >
> >
> >| Bull Shit.
> >|
> >| What about Buddhism?
> >|
> >| Moreover look at the history of pacifism and the Mennonites. They left
> >| Germany and Russia and came to North America because of conscription
> >| issues. Learn your history a bit more
> >|
> >| At 11:09 AM 6/11/2003 -0500, Doug White wrote:
> >| >Of course I hold them in contempt, and likewise term them "Cowards"
> >| >There is no recognized religion that opposes war, none at all.  In
fact all
> >of
> >| >them have a history of oppression, war, exploiting the meek,
preferring to
> >| >keep
> >| >the faithful ignorant, and couching their dogma is falsehoods and
> >deception.
> >| >There is no sincere opposition to armed conflict, only cowardice.
Genuine
> >| >Conscientious Objectors are nothing more than cowards, and as such are
> >| >parasitic
> >| >upon legitimate government and its loyal people.  They should all be
either
> >| >exported or executed.
> >| >
> >| >You sadly misquote Ghandi, Mother Theresa and Martin Luther King.  and
are
> >| >completely wrong about the Mennonites.
> >| >
> >| >But, you will survive, because the majority of the citizenry will bear
arms
> >to
> >| >defend your rights and constitutional protections, as well as
permitting
> >| >you to
> >| >espouse your lies and deceptions.
> >| >
> >| >
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> >| >----- Original Message -----
> >| >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >| >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >| >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:52 AM
> >| >Subject: RE: A good american
> >| >
> >| >
> >| >| So I take it that you hold in contempt those who have a sincere,
> >religious
> >| >| or otherwise, conviction that serving in the military is wrong. Its
great
> >| >| to know that there are those who would gladly persecute others based
on
> >| >| their beliefs. Genuine conscientious objectors would fall under your
> >| >| rubric. People like Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King etc
have
> >| >| those beliefs. There are other groups like the Mennonites who also
have
> >| >| very strong religious beliefs against serving in the military.
> >| >|
> >| >| Such ignorance is appalling.
> >| >|
> >| >| larry
> >| >|
> >| >
> >| >
> >|
> >
> 
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