Me too, I love to cook although I also come by it naturally - my father
loves to cook as well.  Most of my friends can't believe the things I
make, and I feel like it's so easy.

Matthew Small
IT Director
Showstopper American Dance Championships
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-----Original Message-----
From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:56 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Cooking and programming WAS RE: Erika

I've never cooked professionally, but I do love to cook. My mom has
always
been supremely annoyed that I am one of those cooks (and bakers) that
can
just throw stuff together and come up with something good (not always,
but
most of the time). She has to follow a recipe exactly. I think that's an
important distinction when it comes to comparing cooking to coding - if
can
you cook without a recipe, but with knowledge that if you mix flavor a
and
flavor b with texture c you come up with delicious dish x, then I think
you're cooking like a programmer.

-d


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heald, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: Cooking and programming WAS RE: Erika


> Cooked for several years when we lived in Maine.  Nothing on the level
that
> you guys do, did it just long enough to kill my love of it.
>
> I also have played the trombone, trumpet, and bass guitar at different
> times, mainly the Bass though.
>
> Other hobbies that go along with programming?  I have found most
people
here
> very well read.  Not sure if it goes along with programming or not,
but I
> find that there is a strong stubborn streak that runs through ost of
the
> list, myself included.
>
> Tim
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Skinner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:21 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Cooking and programming WAS RE: Erika
> >
> > Ok, I've been lurking on this Erika topic, and enjoying the recipes
and
> > food
> > discussions being shared.  This has hit on a personal theory of
mine,
and
> > I
> > wonder how others on this list might feel about it.
> >
> > I'm noticing that there are some very good cooks on this list,
> > particularly
> > Adam here, who sounds like he might be professionally trained or at
least
> > an
> > extremely enthusiastic and well read amateur.  Being a
professionally
> > trained (CIA) and 10 year veteran chef myself I've truly appreciated
this
> > discussion.
> >
> > My theory is that there are a lot of similarities between cooking
and
> > programming.  They are both a true mix of art and science.  They
both
are
> > all about taking basic building blocks and creating more complex
entities
> > that can continue to be combined in multiple ways to create a final
> > product.
> > There are few positions that require more multi-tasking and time
> > management
> > then a professional chef.  Every day, you have dozens of tasks that
must
> > be
> > done by the strictest deadline of the dinning room opening and you
must
> > properly plan the order and do more then one thing at a time to get
this
> > accomplished.  This training has served me extremely well in my
second
> > career as a programmer.
> >
> > How many of you are or have been professional or amateur cooks?
What
> > other
> > secondary/alternate/hobby activates mesh as well with programming?
I
was
> > once told that musicians also mesh will with programming for many
similar
> > reasons.
> >
> > --------------
> > Ian Skinner
> > Web Programmer
> > BloodSource
> > Sacramento, CA
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 7:13 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: erika
> >
> >
> > > Besides making good chicken stock is a lot easier than the
> > > method you describe.
> >
> > Actually, if you're making a roasted-bones chicken stock (the kind
that
> > has
> > a darker color and a deeper, slightly nuttier flavor), the two
processes
> > are
> > rather similar.
> >
> > Glace de viande is the ultimate reduction of gelatinous beef stock
until
> > no
> > more moisture can be expelled.  It hardens into a solid dark brown
block
> > that you crack with a mallet into little pieces and store uncovered
in
the
> > fridge for up to a week.  It dissolves nicely in sauces, provides a
depth
> > and richness of flavor and a high gloss, and thickens and smoothes
the
> > sauce
> > into a perfect mouth feel.  It's rarely used in home cooking because
of
> > the
> > effort and short fridge life, but if you're all stressed out from
work
and
> > want to relax, it's a great distraction.
> >
> > PS-- If you make your own chicken stock, try this:
> >
> > 1) Simmer the chicken whole for about one hour in barely salted
water at
> > just the barest hint of a simmer.  Remove from heat and let the
chicken
> > cool
> > in its liquid.
> >
> > 2) Pick the chicken clean and reserve the simmering liquid, carcass,
wings
> > tips, skin, and bones.  Use the meat for something else.
> >
> > 3) Hack the carcass and cut the skin into 1-inch pieces, and place
in a
> > roasting pan with two quartered onions with the skins left on, a
carrot
or
> > two cut into inch-long pieces, one bay leaf, two teaspoons of whole
black
> > peppercorns, and either one sprig of fresh thyme or a pinch of dried
> > thyme.
> > No salt yet.
> >
> > 4) Roast at 400-F until everything is nicely light brown
> >
> > 5) Transfer the mixture to your stock pot and deglaze the roasting
pan
> > with
> > some of the reserved simmering liquid from earlier to dissolve all
the
> > fond,
> > then tranfer that plus the remaining simmering liquid to the stock
pot.
> >
> > 6) Add enough cold water to just cover and bring to a barely moving
simmer
> > uncovered (or you'll roll in the albumins and cloud the stock).
Simmer
> > only
> > about an hour or it'll get bitter.
> >
> > 7) Strain through cheesecloth, de-fat in a separator (best kitchen
> > invention
> > ever made), strain through cheesecloth one last time, and season to
taste.
> >
> > I typically don't reduce chicken stock any further because it turns
bitter
> > on me.  You should end up with a rich and flavorful roasted chicken
stock.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Adam Phillip Churvis
> > Member of Team Macromedia
> >
> > Advanced Intensive ColdFusion MX Training
> > ColdFusion MX Master Class:
> > July 14 - 18, 2003
> > http://www.ColdFusionTraining.com
> >
> > Download CommerceBlocks V2.1 and LoRCAT from
> > http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com
> >
> > The ColdFusion MX Bible is in bookstores now!
> >
> >
> >
> 

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