Cooked for several years when we lived in Maine.  Nothing on the level that
you guys do, did it just long enough to kill my love of it.

I also have played the trombone, trumpet, and bass guitar at different
times, mainly the Bass though.

Other hobbies that go along with programming?  I have found most people here
very well read.  Not sure if it goes along with programming or not, but I
find that there is a strong stubborn streak that runs through ost of the
list, myself included.

Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Skinner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:21 AM
> To:   CF-Community
> Subject:      Cooking and programming WAS RE: Erika
> 
> Ok, I've been lurking on this Erika topic, and enjoying the recipes and
> food
> discussions being shared.  This has hit on a personal theory of mine, and
> I
> wonder how others on this list might feel about it.
> 
> I'm noticing that there are some very good cooks on this list,
> particularly
> Adam here, who sounds like he might be professionally trained or at least
> an
> extremely enthusiastic and well read amateur.  Being a professionally
> trained (CIA) and 10 year veteran chef myself I've truly appreciated this
> discussion.
> 
> My theory is that there are a lot of similarities between cooking and
> programming.  They are both a true mix of art and science.  They both are
> all about taking basic building blocks and creating more complex entities
> that can continue to be combined in multiple ways to create a final
> product.
> There are few positions that require more multi-tasking and time
> management
> then a professional chef.  Every day, you have dozens of tasks that must
> be
> done by the strictest deadline of the dinning room opening and you must
> properly plan the order and do more then one thing at a time to get this
> accomplished.  This training has served me extremely well in my second
> career as a programmer.
> 
> How many of you are or have been professional or amateur cooks?  What
> other
> secondary/alternate/hobby activates mesh as well with programming?  I was
> once told that musicians also mesh will with programming for many similar
> reasons.
> 
> --------------
> Ian Skinner
> Web Programmer
> BloodSource
> Sacramento, CA
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 7:13 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: erika
> 
> 
> > Besides making good chicken stock is a lot easier than the
> > method you describe.
> 
> Actually, if you're making a roasted-bones chicken stock (the kind that
> has
> a darker color and a deeper, slightly nuttier flavor), the two processes
> are
> rather similar.
> 
> Glace de viande is the ultimate reduction of gelatinous beef stock until
> no
> more moisture can be expelled.  It hardens into a solid dark brown block
> that you crack with a mallet into little pieces and store uncovered in the
> fridge for up to a week.  It dissolves nicely in sauces, provides a depth
> and richness of flavor and a high gloss, and thickens and smoothes the
> sauce
> into a perfect mouth feel.  It's rarely used in home cooking because of
> the
> effort and short fridge life, but if you're all stressed out from work and
> want to relax, it's a great distraction.
> 
> PS-- If you make your own chicken stock, try this:
> 
> 1) Simmer the chicken whole for about one hour in barely salted water at
> just the barest hint of a simmer.  Remove from heat and let the chicken
> cool
> in its liquid.
> 
> 2) Pick the chicken clean and reserve the simmering liquid, carcass, wings
> tips, skin, and bones.  Use the meat for something else.
> 
> 3) Hack the carcass and cut the skin into 1-inch pieces, and place in a
> roasting pan with two quartered onions with the skins left on, a carrot or
> two cut into inch-long pieces, one bay leaf, two teaspoons of whole black
> peppercorns, and either one sprig of fresh thyme or a pinch of dried
> thyme.
> No salt yet.
> 
> 4) Roast at 400-F until everything is nicely light brown
> 
> 5) Transfer the mixture to your stock pot and deglaze the roasting pan
> with
> some of the reserved simmering liquid from earlier to dissolve all the
> fond,
> then tranfer that plus the remaining simmering liquid to the stock pot.
> 
> 6) Add enough cold water to just cover and bring to a barely moving simmer
> uncovered (or you'll roll in the albumins and cloud the stock).  Simmer
> only
> about an hour or it'll get bitter.
> 
> 7) Strain through cheesecloth, de-fat in a separator (best kitchen
> invention
> ever made), strain through cheesecloth one last time, and season to taste.
> 
> I typically don't reduce chicken stock any further because it turns bitter
> on me.  You should end up with a rich and flavorful roasted chicken stock.
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Adam Phillip Churvis
> Member of Team Macromedia
> 
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