True enough about the life and death responsibility of carrying
passengers. But there's a difference of intent in life and death when
there are armaments attached. =)

-Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:37 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: No charges for 'friendly fire' pilots
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:56 PM
> Subject: RE: No charges for 'friendly fire' pilots
> 
> 
> | All I know is that as a pilot, the ultimate responsibility in the 
> | plane is the PIC (pilot in command). As a private pilot, if 
> I even get 
> | a drunk driving ticket and don't report it to the FAA 
> within a certain 
> | period of time I can have my certificate revoked. That's not even 
> | doing anything near a plane.
> |
> | I don't know what the military process for this is, but I 
> would think 
> | that a military pilot with life and death responsibility 
> would be held 
> | to a higher standard than a civvie like me.
> |
> | -Kevin
> 
> 
> I hold a Commercial ticket, although all I have ever done is 
> private flying, I agree with the FAA rule about 
> alcohol/drug/antihistamine use prior to flight. Several 
> Airline pilots have discovered these rules as well. But any 
> pilot who carries passengers has a life and death responsibility.
> 
> I am sure the military has a standard, and there is even the 
> possibility that there is some politics involved, however, 
> that is the responsibility of the convening authority, and I 
> guess is a judgment call based on the evidence presented.  
> The investigation was exhaustive, and the defense attorneys 
> had no input at all.
> 
> Based on the report that there was being considered 
> non-judicial penalties, indicates there was some wrong doing, 
> and perhaps they think while wrong, and possibly in violation 
> of some part of the UCMJ, it did not rise to the level of a 
> judicial proceeding.  I don't want to try to second guess the 
> decision, because I am sure I do not have all of the evidence 
> to consider as they did.  I can speculate that the source of 
> the "Hold Fire" instructions did not come from
> an authority higher than the one that issued standing orders. 
>   Who, outside of
> the military will ever know?
> 
> But who am I to say?  I was one of the ones (Korean Veteran) 
> that believed there
> should have been no courts Marshal in the My Lai incident in 
> Viet Nam.   After
> all, what is unconventional warfare to the US is a normal 
> thing for other countries, and that is to co-mingle the 
> fighters among civilians, not wear identifiable uniforms, and 
> scream innocence when attacked.  This is great propaganda 
> fodder for the peace-niks.
> 
> Look at all the media coverage given to the Palestine 
> situation and little in favor of the Israelis to defend 
> themselves.  Places of worship, hospitals and schools are off 
> limits in the rules, so the Palestine folks load them  up 
> with soldiers, arms, explosives, and bomb factories, and can 
> operate with impunity. The exact same situation exists in 
> Afghanistan as Iraq.
> 
> 
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