so how would you propose to translate that other than "you are less than 
honorable?" Seems insulting enough to me, but maybe I am just funny that 
way. Say it to a Klingon and he will rip your heart out :)

Dana


On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:12:06 -0400, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Actually, I knew that.
>
> My question is this:  if you were trying to translate it into Klingon, 
> would
> you use Klingon concepts?
>
> love = not wanting to kill you
> forgiveness = letting you live to experience your dishonor
> turn the other cheek = present your unwounded side
>
> Or would you try to keep with the original meanings?
>
> It's an interesting question, and it comes up because of all the /real/
> languages where this is a problem.  For example, it's pretty hard to be
> insulting (as Westerners know it) in Japanese.  Things like m******f*****
> would have been taken literally (before the broad westernization of 
> Japan)
> and would have been insulting, but not the way intended.
>
> That's not to say you can't be insulting in Japanese, but if you 
> translated
> it literally into English and then said it to an American, you generally
> would get a wierd look instead of an angry or hurt one.  Who cares if I 
> am
> less than honorable, ya freak?
>
>
> --  Ben Doom
> Programmer & General Lackey
> Moonbow Software, Inc
>
> : -----Original Message-----
> : From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> : Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 1:54 PM
> : To: CF-Community
> : Subject: RE: It's here ...
> :
> :
> : They tried that already. The group that was doing it broke up because
> : they kept arguing with each other. Some finally decided that it could
> : not be done because words like "love" and "forgivness" do not exist in
> : the Klingon language.
> :
> : And yes I'm serious....and stop calling me Shirley.
> :
> : -----Original Message-----
> : From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> : Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 1:44 PM
> : To: CF-Community
> : Subject: RE: It's here ...
> :
> :
> : The Bible in Klingon?
> :
> :
> : --  Ben Doom
> :     Programmer & General Lackey
> :     Moonbow Software, Inc
> :
> : : -----Original Message-----
> : : From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> : : Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 4:03 AM
> : : To: CF-Community
> : : Subject: RE: It's here ...
> : :
> : :
> : : /me just assumes everyone knows what she's talking about ... And 
> offer
> : a
> : : pan of fresh baked muffins as a prize
> : :
> : : >>| -----Original Message-----
> : : >>| From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> : : >>| Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:55 AM
> : : >>| To: CF-Community
> : : >>| Subject: It's here ...
> : : >>|
> : : >>|
> : : >>| /me does happy muffin dance ..
> : : >>|
> : : >>| Just delivered.
> : : >>|
> : : >>| Funky British edition ... 766 pages, all condensed, almost 3
> : inches
> : : >>| THICK! ... But it's here!
> : : >>|
> : : >>| W00t!
> : :
> : :
> :
> : 
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