"I have not heard of one bar and/or restaurant that has gone out of business
from the ban on smoking here in CA."

that's because nobody smokes in CA anyway. what's a pack cost there, 8$?

"there are restaurants and bars left in CA that do allow smoking by
following the rules necessary
to do so."

apparantly NY doesn't have these 'special rules', don't know about FL.

the point you seem to be missing is if there was enough of a market for
'non-smoking only' restaurants/bars, business owners would have DONE IT
ALREADY. the amount of smoking-ban nazi's doesn't even come close to the
smokers/apathetic. 

this fits in to what Raymond just posted. if the market share is there, why
wasn't anyone doing it? restaurants are one of the toughtest businesses out
there, and very cutthroat. don't tell me that the owners are too stupid to
take advantage of it if it's true.

--d.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 11:08 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: woo hoo


Yes you are crazy, because then the choice is not to go to ALL restaurants.

There is a rant here about non-smokers holding a gun to the head of owners
to get a non-smoking restaurant.  What about the smoking-gun smokers hold on
a us non-smokers.  One smoker in a restaurant can fill up the whole place.
So all us 45 non-smokers just have to get up and leave.  Why is his right to
smoke more important then my right NOT to smoke.  Why do I have to leave,
why can't the smoker leave.

I have not heard of one bar and/or restaurant that has gone out of business
from the ban on smoking here in CA.  Guess what, many smokers can put their
habit on hold for an hour to eat out.    I have yet to figure out how to
hold my breath for the same time period.

As you might guess, I'm pro non-smoking in public places.  Because the
smoker isn't the only one smoking in this situation.

Ok, I'll stop venting now.

Now, you are perfectly free to smoke in private, and there are restaurants
and bars left in CA that do allow smoking by following the rules necessary
to do so.  So go there.  And let me have a smoke free place to enjoy my
pasta primavera.

--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
Sacramento, CA



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