Exactly

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Subject: Re: Bush does it again :-)


| Doug,
|
| re LBJ, are you referring to the lie about the North Vietnamese firing on the
| destroyer in the Gulf of Tonkin?
|
| -Ben
|
| > If you can rely on the accuracy of the Washington Post, then the Quote is
| > accurate, while the statement is not.
| >
| > If it is an accurate quote, then I expect that over time, it will be brought
| > back to haunt him.
| >
| > You can bet the Democrats will keep it alive and well, just as the
Republicans
| > did with the quotes from his predecessor.
| >
| > Strange, though, a lie about the justification for going to war, was last
used
| > by a Democrat; i.e. Lyndon Johnson who relied on his Secretary of Defense,
| > McNamara, who just before death admitted he lied.  Will Rumsfield eventually
do
| > the same?
| >
| >
| >
| > ----- Original Message ----- 
| > From: "Andy Ousterhout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:36 PM
| > Subject: RE: Bush does it again :-)
| >
| >
| > | While I haven't seen this yet, perhaps it will be on the news tonight, I
| > | would need to understand the context prior to forming a judgment.  For
|
| > | example, what question prompted this answer and what was the complete
| > | answer.  I am very wary of any single sentence quotes.  It is too easy to
| > | misunderstand what was actually communicated.
| > |
| > | And maybe, just maybe, the reason almost nobody quoted him was that it
| > | wasn't newsworthy.
| > |
| > | -----Original Message-----
| > | From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > | Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:05 PM
| > | To: CF-Community
| > | Subject: Bush does it again :-)
| > |
| > |
| > | "July 15, 2003  |  A "darn good" quote that almost nobody quoted
| > | "We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let
| > | them in."
| > | George W. Bush uttered that amazing sentence yesterday to justify the
| > | war in Iraq, according to the Washington Post.
| > |
| > | What? Yes, I promise that's what the man said. (And by "him," the
| > | president clearly meant Saddam Hussein -- not Kim Jong Il, who actually
| > | has refused to let international inspectors into North Korea.)
| > |
|
| > | Now a presidential statement so frontally at variance with the
| > | universally acknowledged facts obviously presents a problem for the
| > | White House press corps. He wasn't joking, and he didn't sound
| > | disoriented or unwell. Although Dana Priest and Dana Milbank wrote the
| > | story as delicately as they possibly could, they couldn't make it seem
| > | less weird:
| > |
| > | "The president's assertion that the war began because Iraq did not admit
| > | inspectors appeared to contradict the events leading up to war this
| > | spring: Hussein had, in fact, admitted the inspectors and Bush had
| > | opposed extending their work because he did not believe them effective."
| > |
| > | Appeared to contradict the events leading up to war? Indeed, that's an
| > | exceedingly mild description of what Bush said. There's no plausible
| > | explanation, unless the president suddenly flashed back to his Yale
| > | sophomore philosophy seminar, grappling with the argument that
| > | everything we perceive is mere illusion.
| > |
|
| > | For the moment, however, let's just assume reality does exist. What
| > | possessed the president to make an assertion that everyone on the planet
| > | knows to be untrue? And who is going to take the responsibility for this
| > | one? Did George Tenet vet Bush's statement? Do the British have a secret
| > | dossier proving that Saddam never actually admitted Hans Blix and the
| > | UNMOVIC teams? Will Condi Rice or Donald Rumsfeld show up on Fox News
| > | next weekend to explain why Bush's statement is "technically accurate,"
| > | even though he shouldn't have said it?
| > |
| > | As hard to explain as what Bush said is the press corps' failure to
| > | report his stunning gaffe. The sentence quoted above doesn't appear in
| > | today's New York Times report, for example. Yet there is no question
| > | about what he said -- undoubtedly to the amazement of both Kofi Annan,
| > | who was sitting beside him at the time, and the dozens of reporters who
| > | were present during their brief joint press conference.
| > |
|
| > | Anyone who doesn't believe me (or the Post) can watch Bush say the exact
| > | words quoted above here, toward the end of the White House's own
| > | videotape of his remarks, under the headline "President Reaffirms Strong
| > | Position on Liberia."
| > |
| > | Another recent president once said something that was blatantly untrue,
| > | if fairly trivial, and the videotape of his statement was replayed
| > | again, and again, and again, and again ...
| > |
| > | -Joe Conason"
| > |
| > | -Gel
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| 
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