Yeah aren't liver biopsies *fun*??? Here is my undestanding of the issue. Alcohol is a liver toxin. Almost all painkillers are liver toxins, as are things like paint, nail polish and according to some people household cleaners.
Assuming you do not abuse any of the above to the point of causing cirrhosis or other liver scarring, moderate quantities of the above are unlikely to cause problems for most people. Several of the above in combination does not cause just additional damage, it causes *exponentially* more damage. in other words not damage A plus damage B; damage A *times* damage B. This is no joke; I prrobably did myself quite a bit of harm chasing motrin with Heineken, and I know someone who died of the practice. He got into a fight and the damage -- which he had no idea existed -- was just too great to allow for the injuries he received in the fight to heal. He might have lived another year had he not got in that fight; but he was already dying and hadn't a clue. In fact they never prosecuted the guy who hit him as they said it was not a reasonably foreseeable effect of the force used. Dana Todd writes: > Well, that was my point. I was under the impression that I could drink > whenever I wanted and only have to worry about the hangover, if I overdid it > (I never drank to the point of getting sick). I didn't know there was any > such thing as liver/kidney/nerve damage. It just didn't occur to me. > Imagine my surprise when the blood tests came back indicating liver damage. > I felt fine. I didn't have any external symptoms that would catch a > doctor's attention and there was nothing that indicated to me that anything > was wrong. Not everyone experiences symptoms. Some people don't begin > exhibiting symptoms until the damage is permanent and extensive and they > start going downhill. Rather scary. > > After a biopsy, (that was NOT fun .. there's just something about having an > 1/8 inch steel rod shoved into one of my major organs that just creeps me > out .. not to mention the interesting sensation that goes along with it) > they decided that the damage hadn't reached the point of being permanent. > They determined that a sensitivity to alcohol was the problem. Now, I stay > away from as many liver toxins as I can. No more alcohol, no pain killers, > etc etc. I am happy to report that all of my blood work is back to normal > and has been for a long while now. > > The whole problem was that I didn't know anything like that could happen and > yet it was happening and I still didn't know it. Oh .. and something else > to consider ... because of that whole mess, I haven't been able to get an > individual insurance policy, even though the docs say I'm 100% back to > normal. *sigh* all that could have been avoided if I had just had the > slightest indication as to how serious the situation could get. > > How many of you know that smoking damages your liver in addition to your > lungs? Smoking while drinking also increases the stress put on your liver. > Doing both at once causes more damage than doing both, but separately. It's > little things like this, that no one bothers to tell you, that get you in > more trouble than you think you are getting into. :) > > Todd > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adam Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:44 PM > Subject: RE: And we Americans are sue happy? > > > > Todd, > > Alcohol is not bad for you. You may well be more intolerant to alcohol. > > Asian people have low intolerance due to the way they dealt with purifying > > water over the centuries (they used tea, the west used alcohol). > > > > Drinking alcohol to excess on the otherhand is bad for you. Your body > tells > > you it is bad for you: > > You puke, hangover, kidneys/liver can ache (never take paracetamol after > > drinking large amounts to cure hangover. Paracetamol has a bad effect on > the > > liver, which is having a difficult enough time dealing with the alcohol). > > > > At this point I would like to point out that excessive drinking of Water > can > > kill you. Somebody on a stupid diet ended up doing this to themselves. > > Completely mad. Just litres of water. > > > > Like most things, doing them to excess will usually cause complications, > but > > certain things in small quantities are good for you. Take vitamins and > > minerals. Eat too many of them in one go and watch your body throw a > loopy. > > > > Adam > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
