yeah I saw that. Am still not clear on whether it was borrowed from the
school or one of the other kids' parents. I dont guess it matters; my
primary point is that the kid had a right not to have a movie of him
distributed without his permission. IE when you put it on the internet it
isn't home movies any more.

Dana

William Wheatley writes:

> I left the link to it it was on waxy where HE left the tape in the Camera
> and after an extended period of weeks someone else found it.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 7:04 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: Fat Brat sues, Now is Teasing
> 
> 
> > (confused) what did they do, copy it? Anyway, my point is that the parents
> > of these other kids apparently need to take this more seriously than they
> > have.
> >
> > Dana
> >
> > William Wheatley writes:
> >
> > > :) But now we know they weren't thieves. he left the tape so it wasn't
> > > really stolen from him.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:38 PM
> > > Subject: Re: RE: Fat Brat sues, Now is Teasing
> > >
> > >
> > > > mmmm not sure about Quebec but when this guy was stripping parts off
> my
> > > > truck the police told me they couldn't do anything because I hadn't
> > > > actually seen him do it.
> > > >
> > > > In any case I think the civil suit puts the responsibility where it
> should
> > > > have been all along, with the thieves' parents.
> > > >
> > > > Dana
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > William Wheatley writes:
> > > >
> > > > > File a criminal compliant but don't sue for emotional distress.
> > > > > I'm all for the thieves getting in trouble for being thieves but its
> a
> > > life
> > > > > lesson learned and sure give the kids that stole a record and be
> done
> > > with
> > > > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: "Ian Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:39 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: RE: Fat Brat sues, Now is Teasing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > That's kind of my feelings.  There is a lot of talk about the kid
> just
> > > > > > dropping it, and life lessons learned, and basically for him to
> take
> > > > > > responsibility for his own actions (recording the tape in the
> first
> > > > > place).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But why doesn't that statement apply to the kids that stole and
> > > published
> > > > > > the tapes.  They have no responsibility? They have no life lessons
> to
> > > > > learn?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or do we just say, well you can't get prevent all teasing so lets
> not
> > > > > bother
> > > > > > with any of it, no matter how grievous.  Throw our hands in the
> air
> > > and
> > > > > walk
> > > > > > away?  Sweep it under the covers with blanket statements like
> "we've
> > > all
> > > > > > been teased" and "Kids will be kids".  In other words, the
> lesson's
> > > > > learned
> > > > > > for them, are you can get away without responsibility if you can
> make
> > > > > enough
> > > > > > people laugh?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And I'm sorry, but if the tape was stolen and published without
> his or
> > > his
> > > > > > parent's permission, then I think that is fairly well defined in
> the
> > > law
> > > > > as
> > > > > > being illegal.  So why should this kid give his legal rights up,
> just
> > > > > > because he's not popular?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------
> > > > > > Ian Skinner
> > > > > > Web Programmer
> > > > > > BloodSource
> > > > > > Sacramento, CA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:23 AM
> > > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > > Subject: RE: RE: Fat Brat sues, Now is Teasing
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of course the real world is mean. However, that doesn't mean we
> stand
> > > > > > for it. In the corporate world, there are rules to prevent
> disruptive
> > > > > > behavior since it leads to an unhealthy workplace.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I originally made my point, it wasn't to say that we should
> end
> > > all
> > > > > > teasing, since that will never happen. I was saying that maybe we
> > > should
> > > > > > just be more strict against those who do verbally abuse others,
> even
> > > if
> > > > > > they are 'just kids.'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -rc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:14 PM
> > > > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: RE: Fat Brat sues, Now is Teasing
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Even when you teach compassion its still going to happen the
> > > > > > > world will never be utopia. And yes i was teased but i knew
> > > > > > > what it was like so i've always tried to help out people who
> > > > > > > were in similar situations but come on this kid was just
> > > > > > > asking for it lol.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > People can't always be compassionate either, its not a matter
> > > > > > > of teaching kids to be teasers or not. I think it will happen
> > > > > > > regardless and we all have to make it through the writ of
> passage
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> 
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