Damn... I knew I'd forgot something. :) > No, shades of grey are dithered. :-)
> -- Ben Doom > Programmer & General Lackey > Moonbow Software, Inc > : -----Original Message----- > : From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > : Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:30 PM > : To: CF-Community > : Subject: RE: Re: RE: What would you do if you won > PowerBall? > : > : > : Ha! ... I guess every shade of gray must be black or > white > : then. :) And all questions must be answered the moment > they > : are asked. And all decisions must be made in some > permanent > : fashion the moment the an option is realized... I just > can't > : work that way. > : > : > I'm an objectivist. Absolutes are all I have :) > : > : > Tim > : > : > -----Original Message----- > : > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > : > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:39 PM > : > To: CF-Community > : > Subject: RE: Re: RE: What would you do if you won > : > PowerBall? > : > : > : >> So basically your saying there were no famines or > wars of > : >> aggression and conquest throughout history? > : > : > How in THE WORLD did you conclude that?! > : > : > Are we even having the same conversation? Can you > offer me > : > a > : > road map? > : > : >> Dewd, seriously this is some slanted thinking. > Agrarian > : >> societies were feudal or some other totalitarian > system. > : >> This idea of community that your preaching doesn't > work > : >> in the real world. > : > : > Each individual has to make all decisions regarding > change > : > for themselves. That being said, as an individual it > is > : > possible to change your lifestyle. Sometimes those > changes > : > are things that have minimal impact on you as an > : > individual, > : > such as chosing to use cloth kitchen towels instead of > : > paper > : > towels. Other times they hare significant impact on > you, > : > like chosing not to drive or own a car. It's possible > to > : > make large changes (like not driving) and still > maintain > : > other elements of your lifestyle, for instance, when > you > : > stop driving, you don't necessarily have to change > your > : > diet. It's a non-sequitur to assume that because the > : > larger > : > agrarian societies we have knowledge of in our history > : > were > : > fuedal or totalitarian means that all agrarian > societies > : > ever have been or ever will be fuedal or totalitarian > or > : > _more_importantly_ that they are by necessity more > cruel > : > to > : > the people in them than a capitalist society. Just as > it > : > would be a non-sequitur to assume that because someone > : > choses to give up cars as a part of their lifestyle > that > : > they must change their diet (because they can't > manageably > : > carry the food they like home on the buss for > instance). > : > : > There are also many current-day examples of agrarian > : > communities that work quite well: > : > : > http://www.ic.org > : > : > Lastly, why do you assume that when I speak I'm > speaking > : > with a "voice" of absolutes? > : > : > Isaac > : > : >> Timothy Heald > : >> Information Systems Specialist > : >> Overseas Security Advisory Council > : >> U.S. Department of State > : >> 571.345.2235 > : > : > : >> -----Original Message----- > : >> From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > : >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:10 PM > : >> To: CF-Community > : >> Subject: RE: Re: RE: What would you do if you won > : >> PowerBall? > : > : > : >> I suppose ultimately that I don't understand why > people > : >> can't grow their own > : >> food -- or just live tribally, you know, > hunter/gatherer > : >> -- with the > : >> possible exception of being on a small island where > every > : >> square meter of > : >> land belongs to someone who's unwilling to share in > which > : >> case my answer is > : >> to ration the land and/or provide those without any > : >> transportation to > : >> someplace else... > : > : >> I don't think personally that I'd like to go back to > an > : >> entirely > : >> pre-agricultural state, because I suspect it's a lot > : >> easier to get by and > : >> have food if you grow it intentionally, but, the fact > : >> that > : >> we're still here > : >> at all is absolute proof that it can be done if > : >> necessary. > : >> In some ways > : >> growing your own food is even better than having it > grown > : >> by large corporate > : >> agro-businesses and shipped hundreds or thousands of > : >> miles > : >> to the grocery in > : >> big diesel trucks. Personally I'd really like to go > back > : >> to living > : >> communally and growing our own food at least for > myself, > : >> although I don't > : >> expect everyone to do that. I certainly think that > would > : >> be a step up from a > : >> sweat shop. > : > : >> Isaac > : > : >> Original Message ----------------------- > : >> If the alternative is starvation most people are > willing > : >> to work. Be nice > : >> if children didnt have to face that choice. > : > : >> William Wheatley writes: > : > : >>> Play devils advocate what about the kids who have to > : >>> have > : >>> a job and money > : >> in > : >>> order to survive for whatever reason? > : >>> > : >>> I was listening to a piece on npr where a kid was > saying > : >>> (via translator) > : >>> how he needed to work. When the inspector (or > whatever > : >>> the proper title > : >> is) > : >>> tried to shut the place down he fired the underage > kid > : >>> who was then > : >> screwed > : >>> since they didn't have the money to pay for food and > : >>> such. They also > : >> talked > : >>> about child labor unions so the kids could make good > $$. > : >>> If there is > : >> nothing > : >>> else for a child to do and they have to work why > should > : >>> we hold the > : >>> children, who WILLINGLY want to work , back and > limit > : >>> them. There is no > : >>> social security in those countries no foster care > what > : >>> would become of > : >> them > : >>> if they were unable to work and provide for > themselves. > : >>> > : >>> ----- Original Message ----- > : >>> From: "s. isaac dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : >>> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:31 PM > : >>> Subject: RE: RE: What would you do if you won > PowerBall? > : >>> > : >>> > : >>> > How about buying the Gap (or some other large > US-grown > : >>> > corp) and forcing > : >>> them to stop actively contributing to sweat shops in > : >>> third world > : >> countries? > : >>> > > : >>> > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q > : >>> > = > : >>> > area+code+map > : >>> > > : >>> > > : >>> > : >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/audiovideo/programmes/panorama > : >> / > : >> archive/970385.stm > : >>> > > : >>> > Isaac > : >>> > > : >>> > Original Message ----------------------- > : >>> > OK then I started this so here is mine. > : >>> > > : >>> > In no particular order (most likely all at once) > : >>> > > : >>> > - I would open an account for my grandmother to do > : >>> > with > : >>> > what she wants > : >> as > : >>> > she has supported me (bailed me out) for most of > my > : >>> > life. > : >>> > - Buy a house on an island and retire with my > friends > : >>> > and family > : >>> > - Maybe a mountain retreat somewhere with a huge > : >>> > telescope > : >>> > - Visit the Great Wall of China > : >>> > - Pay the Russians a million dollars to take me to > : >>> > space (maybe :)) > : >>> > - College for my kids (this includes some friends > : >>> > kids) > : >>> > - I would like to buy a huge piece of the rain > forest > : >>> > that I will never > : >>> burn > : >>> > or run off the natives. > : >>> > - Buy Old Navy and force them to carry cloths for > : >>> > everyone. > : >>> > > : >>> > There is probably more. > : >>> > > : >>> > Rick Eidson > : >>> > > : >>> > -----Original Message----- > : >>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > : >>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > : >>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:42 AM > : >>> > To: CF-Community > : >>> > Subject: Re: What would you do if you won > PowerBall? > : >>> > > : >>> > off the top, in no particular order: > : >>> > > : >>> > - keep working until I can pass knowledge on to a > : >>> > successor > : >>> > - fix up the house, just the way we want it > : >>> > (it's "home", so don't want to move to another > place, > : >>> > maybe just expand) > : >>> > - buy homes for kids, relatives, friends, so they > : >>> > always have a roof > : >> over > : >>> > - donate enough money to a particular charitable > org > : >>> > (one my Mom worked > : >>> > with) > : >>> > for them to build a school with her name on it > : >>> > - build a homeless shelter w/ job training center > : >>> > - open a company to hire the successful grads of > the > : >>> > job center > : >>> > - build an apartment complex to house the workers > : >>> > - travel, travel, travel > : >>> > - study > : >>> > - volunteer > : >>> > - pray > : >>> > - get really physically fit > : >>> > - watch videos > : >>> > - sleep late sometimes, then start the day by > making > : >>> > love > : >>> > instead of waking up early to go to work > : >>> > > : >>> > -Ben > : >>> > > : >>> > > : >>> > > > http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/2382747/det > : >>> > > a > : >>> > > il.html > : >>> > > > : >>> > > > : >>> > > Rick > : >>> > > > : >>> > > : >>> > > : >>> > > : >>> > : > : > : >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > : >> ~ > : >> ~~~~~~~~~~~| > : >> Archives: > : >> > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 > : >> Subscription: > : >> http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index. > : >> cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 > : > : >> Your ad could be here. 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