Dont know. Would be interested in seeing one of these tests.

Dana

Matthew Small writes:

> I have no factual data to back up these claims, but I have heard from more
> than a few teachers tha I know that their standardized tests are easy, and
> that these tests don't really weed out bad teachers, but the ones that are
> incredibly stupid.
> 
> Anybody out there actually know if that's true?  I'd be willing to be that
> it is.
> 
> - Matthew Small
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Exciting....
> 
> 
> > Unless it is mandated by someone else. Which, on second glance, it seems
> to
> > be. Although perhaps there is rough justice that people are losing jobs
> > over failing arbitrary tests after failing schoolchildren in class over
> not
> > passing arbitrary tests.
> >
> > Better yet would be getting rid of the arbitrary tests however, and
> > assessing employees on how they are performing and students on how they
> are
> > learning.
> >
> > Dana
> >
> > William H Bowen writes:
> >
> > > Wait a minute... it smacks of hypocracy *unless* it's one of those
> > > "mandated tests we hear so much about"?
> > >
> > > It smacks of hypocrisy precisely *because* he failed it and it is a
> > > "mandated [test] we hear so much about."
> > >
> > > It is a requirement for him to do his job and he should pass it. Period.
> > > Exclamation point?
> > >
> > > ^_^
> > >
> > > will
> > >
> > > Dana Tierney wrote:
> > >
> > > >Well it seems to me that if his English was all that broken he would
> not
> > > >have made it to superintendant. There are a good many fluent or native
> > > >English speakers, possibly including me, who could not pass a test on
> > > >formal grammar in English, because we have not had to learn it. Are you
> > > >really clear on when to use me and when to use I? The "correct" answer
> does
> > > >correspond to idiomatic English. Same thing with which and that.
> However,
> > > >if the guy has been suspending teachers over this and he can't pass it
> > > >himself, that smells of hypocrisy unless this is one of those mandated
> > > >tests we are seeing so much of. Personally I am opposed to high-stakes
> > > >testing, especially for children, but this is just another instance of
> its
> > > >idiocies.
> > > >
> > > >Mind you you get no argument from me on the quality public schools ...
> even
> > > >the best are far more concerned with keeping students' behavior in line
> > > >than they are in academics.
> > > >
> > > >Dana
> > > >
> > > >Heald, Tim writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>The guy said he had problems with the rules of English, because it was
> his
> > > >>second language.
> > > >>
> > > >>I don't want him in charge of my son's school district.  This is why
> my sons
> > > >>will both be attending private schools.
> > > >>
> > > >>Timothy Heald
> > > >>Information Systems Specialist
> > > >>Overseas Security Advisory Council
> > > >>U.S. Department of State
> > > >>571.345.2235
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:55 PM
> > > >>To: CF-Community
> > > >>Subject: Re: Re: Exciting....
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>I don't think not passing the test means he is incompetent I think it
> means
> > > >>the test isnt measuring what it is supposed to measure.
> > > >>
> > > >>Dana
> > > >>
> > > >>s. isaac dealey writes:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>How does an incompetent person get a 6 figure government job? ...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Original Message -----------------------
> > > >>>Hmm, it ought to kill the superintendent, not you.
> > > >>>Well, his job anyway...
> > > >>>/Ben
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>This kills me.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > >
> >>http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/08/03/superintendent.test.ap/index.html
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> 
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