But you yourself have pointed out Article 10. This is one of those few cases
which the States are required to follow suit with the Federal laws. And so
by extension, a State Religion is not allowed at the state level any more
than at the Federal level.

You are right that there is not explicit wording to separate the church and
state. However, I'm sure you know the historical intentions behind it. It
was to ensure BOTH religious freedom and prevent persecution, AND to prevent
an official religion promoted by the government.

The Alabama situation is a cut and dried case. Displaying the commandments
wasn't the problem. ONLY displaying the Christian commandments was.

-Kevin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heald, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: 10 commandments


> Up to the state at this point I would say.  None on federal ground though.
>
> Tim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:12 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: 10 commandments
>
>
> So should there be a free exercise of any religion on state or federal
> property?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:02 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: 10 commandments
>
>
> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
> prohibiting the free exercise thereof
>
> God
> A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and
> ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in
> monotheistic religions.
> The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.
> A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by
a
> people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or
> reality.
> An image of a supernatural being; an idol.
> One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god.
> A very handsome man.
> A powerful ruler or despot
>
> So how does that word establish a religion?  If anything you separation
> folks are really violating the second half of that cause "prohibiting the
> free exercise thereof"
>
> Timothy Heald
> Information Systems Specialist
> Overseas Security Advisory Council
> U.S. Department of State
> 571.345.2235
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:20 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: 10 commandments
>
>
> At 08:12 AM 8/28/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >There IS NO SEPARATION CLAUSE!
>
>
> >Constitutional Amendments 1-10: The Bill of Rights
> >
> >Note: The following text is a transcription of the first 10 amendments to
> >the Constitution in their original form. These amendments were ratified
> >December 15, 1791, and form what is known as the "Bill of Rights."
> >
> >Amendment I
> >
> >Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
> >prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech,
> >or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
> >petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
>
> By including the phrase under god to the pledge of Allegience, by an act
of
> Congress, this apprears to violate the separation clause in Amendment 1 of
> the Constitution.
>
> larry
>
>
>
>
> 
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