>> That said, the act of some which may honor a supreme being, is
>>not considered by any reasonable person as the imposition of their belief
system
>>on others, should the others choose not to adopt it.

I have to disagree. If you put a tablet in a courthouse with your god's name
on it, then you are in fact imposing your beliefs on everyone who visits
that courthouse, correct?

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:42 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: 10 commandments


I repeat. THERE IS NO SEPARATION CLAUSE!   The Bill of rights is not LAW or
even
part of the constitution, but is a statement of principle giving rise to the
adoption of the constitution and the separation of the Untied States from
England.

None of the provisions in the constitution mandate a separation of Church
and
state, only prohibits restrictions by the state on the free exercise of
religion
and forbids the establishment of a religion.  The intent was to break away
from
the Church of England (The Official religion of England)

The use of the word 'GOD" in a monument, a pledge of loyalty, or stenciled
on
the national currency,  does not "establish religion"  nor does it prohibit
the
free exercise thereof.

In that context, the word "God" is used in acknowledgement of a supreme
being,
for an English Speaking Nation.  Others may refer to their own supreme being
as
Yaweh, Allah, Lord, Spirit, trees, inanimate objects or many other terms,
according to local custom none of which is mutually exclusive.  Still others
are
free to deny the existence of a supreme being if they so choose.  None have
the
right to impose their belief system on others outside of their family, or
congregation.  That said, the act of some which may honor a supreme being,
is
not considered by any reasonable person as the imposition of their belief
system
on others, should the others choose not to adopt it.

The term "Separation of Church and State" is a principle adopted by the
Supreme
Court in early times of this nation, and is not Law, in any sense, but is
used
as a guideline for the court in its deliberations. The Justices are free at
any
time to either follow the principle or deviate from it as they may choose
from
time to time.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: 10 commandments


| At 08:12 AM 8/28/2003 -0500, you wrote:
| >There IS NO SEPARATION CLAUSE!
|
|
| >Constitutional Amendments 1-10: The Bill of Rights
| >
| >Note: The following text is a transcription of the first 10 amendments to
| >the Constitution in their original form. These amendments were ratified
| >December 15, 1791, and form what is known as the "Bill of Rights."
| >
| >Amendment I
| >
| >Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
| >prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech,
| >or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
| >petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
|
| By including the phrase under god to the pledge of Allegience, by an act
of
| Congress, this apprears to violate the separation clause in Amendment 1 of
| the Constitution.
|
| larry
|


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