Why do we have to?

Who says that peoples "proxies in the government" actually do what we want
them to do?

"we'd rather not, but if we have to then let's do it right and fair."

This is a joke right?  I can see it now.  3 day long claims lines.  Huge
premiums.  
I don't know what country you live in man, but I have been to DMV in the
U.S.  You want to do that with your auto insurance?  Not to mention that 1.
It is not the government's place to make you more responsible and 2. Most
states, and certainly not the federal government here, would not have a
constitutional based justification for this new department to exist.

Tim

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:54 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Public car insurance causes more accidents: study was(RE:
PUB LIC AUTO INSURANCE A BETTER DEAL: STUDY)


So I've been giving this a little thought. If we grant that mandatory car
insurance is here, and it is, then it seems to me only right that insurance
should also be publicly run. Particularly considering that it could, and
absolutely should, be run at costs that are not significantly profitable but
also not at a loss. My thought is that while I'm not a big fan of more
government either, I'm more opposed to government mandates that force people
into supporting a particular private industry that is effectively
unregulated in terms of pricing. The end result there is a law to make
certain individuals rich off of the public.

Since the public has decided, via their proxies in the government, that the
costs of individuals having insurance is a better choice than individuals in
accidents becoming a burden on the state, then it seems to me that the
public should also be required to manage and finance that insurance. There
should be no such thing as unfunded government mandates, and the funding
solution should not make the public slaves to building the wealth of a few
private individuals.

I know this is the "socialized" approach to government, but doesn't it make
sense? It basically says, "we'd rather not, but if we have to then let's do
it right and fair." Does that really sound so off base?

-Kevin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heald, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: Public car insurance causes more accidents: study was(RE: PUB
LIC AUTO INSURANCE A BETTER DEAL: STUDY)


> I was only pointing out Larry's not giving the "whole picture"
>
> Personally I think forced insurance is wrong.
>
> Timothy Heald
> Information Systems Manager
> Overseas Security Advisory Council
> U.S. Department of State
> 571.345.2319
>
> The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S.
> Department of State or any affiliated organization(s).  Nor have these
> opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail
is
> unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:25 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Public car insurance causes more accidents: study was(RE:
> PUBLIC AUTO INSURANCE A BETTER DEAL: STUDY)
>
>
> Curious. I would have thought that you would be one to argue for personal
> responsibility instead of an organization descriminating to force
behavior.
>
> The public insurance doesn't cause more accidents. The bad drivers cause
the
> accidents.
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Heald, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:55 PM
> Subject: Public car insurance causes more accidents: study was(RE: PUBLIC
> AUTO INSURANCE A BETTER DEAL: STUDY)
>
>
> >
http://winnipeg.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=mb_autostudy20030904
> >
> > Timothy Heald
> > Information Systems Manager
> > Overseas Security Advisory Council
> > U.S. Department of State
> > 571.345.2319
> >
> > The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S.
> > Department of State or any affiliated organization(s).  Nor have these
> > opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail
> is
> > unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:50 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: PUBLIC AUTO INSURANCE A BETTER DEAL: STUDY
> >
> >
> > PUBLIC AUTO INSURANCE A BETTER DEAL: STUDY
> > A new study says public auto insurance schemes, such
> > as the one in Manitoba, provides better
> > coverage at lower prices compared to private
> > insurance schemes.
> >
> > FULL STORY
> >
http://winnipeg.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=mb_insurance20030911
> >
> > Strike another one for government owned companies.
> >
> > larry
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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