so, then those of us with degrees in something other than CS degrees (I
happen to hold a BFA in Graphic Design and Illustration) would be
essentially SOL? I've been designing and building web sites since 1995,
first in straight HTML then server-side JS and now in CF. I can program
circles around CS degreed folks that are my friends and collegues.
Doesn't/Won't that count for anything anymore? Sure as hell glad it did
for me...



Jeffry Houser wrote:

>   I'll agree that w/o education / degrees my brothers would not have
> engineering jobs.
>
>   You are saying is that a degree would constitute a designation?  I can
> respect that.  I suspect over time the industry will force such a
> thing on
> itself as employers stop hiring people w/o CS degrees.
>
>
> At 06:05 PM 9/30/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >Subject: CF Salary Range
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:33:21 -0600
> >Thread:
> >http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messages&threadid=9858&forumid=5#90339
> <http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messages&threadid=9858&forumid=5#90339>
> >
> >Yes, in the old days, designations were not required for accounting.  To
> >progress beyond a certain level (and pay), these days at least some sort
> >of designation is all but required.  Not to mention that no one
> becomes an
> >Accountant by picking up a book and declaring themselves an
> >Accountant.  This kind of scheme would work well in the IT world.
> >
> >As for your 'geer brothers, see if they would have their jobs without
> >their education.  That would be their "designation", as it were.
> >
> >Doesn't anyone find it weird that it's IT jobs that get moved, and not
> >engineering/doctor/accounting jobs (or, at least to a lesser
> >degree)?  Perhaps companies don't know how valuable IT people are, think
> >that we're totally interchangable (which we're not) and don't have a
> good
> >handle on what quality and kinds of work a specific person can provide?
>
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