yeah, I'm fully aware that HTML is not a programming language, thanks
for pointing that out though...

> I have a friend who writes assembly/C/C++ for embedded military
systems.  I
> guarantee you he can program circles around anything either you or I
do.  So
> what?

well great, does he have a degree? If not, does *not* having a degree
somehow taint his ability to "program circles around [us]"?

"baseline" suggests basic qualification is X. no "baseline"
qualification, no consideration for a job, no?

> If you feel that you're so l337 at programming...then getting a
designation would only enhance your
> chances at convincing an employee that you're qualified, no?

Not necessarily, at this point I would say that my experience should
convince prospective employers, but without the "baseline" I would be
concerned that I might not get my foot in the door. A cert might help,
true; but which one? MCSE (of whatever flavor)? CF?  I don't think I'll
be going back to college any time soon to get that "baseline" CS
Degree...so where would I start under this system?


Kwang Suh wrote:

> >so, then those of us with degrees in something other than CS degrees (I
> >happen to hold a BFA in Graphic Design and Illustration) would be
> >essentially SOL? I've been designing and building web sites since 1995,
> >first in straight HTML then server-side JS and now in CF. I can program
> >circles around CS degreed folks that are my friends and collegues.
> >Doesn't/Won't that count for anything anymore? Sure as hell glad it did
> >for me...
>
> I have a friend who writes assembly/C/C++ for embedded military
> systems.  I
> guarantee you he can program circles around anything either you or I
> do.  So
> what?
>
> Designation provides a _baseline_ of _qualification_.  It's a way for
> companies to determine that, yes, you actually do have some of the skills
> you claim you have.  It's not something that's used for comparisons
> between
> people, it's a measurement that all the people that have it meet.  It is
> _not_ used for comparison.
>
> If you feel that you're so l337 at programming (btw, HTML is not a
> programming language), then getting a designation would only enhance your
> chances at convincing an employee that you're qualified, no?
>
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