there is a difficulty in implementing it, which I was trying to point out.
Let us assume that history does repeat itself; I might agree with that. The
thing is that events at any given time are interpreted through filter of
our education and experiences. Thus Nick and I probably never will agree
about who won the war of 1812, since we disagree on what it would have
meant to win.
For example, I disagree with
> - The majority opinion is trying to push through policies and ideals that it
> has been trying to work with for several years, much to the consternation of
> the minority.
because I do not think that those who question the policies of the current
administration are in the minority.
I am willing to attempt this discussion if you like, but erm, your
postulates aren't terribly objective, assuming that I read them right.
Dana
C. Hatton Humphrey writes:
> Why has no one answered my question yet?
>
> I said in my initial message:
> "I'm starting a new thread because I don't want to talk about people. I
> don't want to beat on issues that have been debated by the worst, the best
> and all the rest."
>
> I simply wanted to try and take the names and parties away from the current
> scene of events and try and get at least someone to make a suggestion of
> where in our chronological past are we. Instead I'm still seeing names,
> parties and prerogatives. Have we pushed ourselves so deep into our
> political identities that we can't disassociate them for at least one
> message thread?
>
> As the child of a History teacher I've been told time and time again that
> large events repeat themselves. I am simply trying to ascertain where it is
> on that mystical timeline that we are right now.
>
> Let's try to objectively summarize things:
> - There is a single nation that, over the course of the last 100 or so years
> has built up a large military force and who now is tasked with handling or
> helping with every major struggle worldwide.
> - The actively voting population of that said country is split on the means
> and actions of handling international affairs.
> - The governing body of this country is split almost evenly, supposedly
> based on the core political, philosophical and ideological differences.
> - The minority opinion is currently pushing a doom-and-gloom, our way or
> doomsday message that is being ignored by the majority.
> - The majority opinion is trying to push through policies and ideals that it
> has been trying to work with for several years, much to the consternation of
> the minority.
>
> We could continue the list for some time... We're all bright people on this
> list, who's with me to take up this challenge and try and find out what
> point we're at in the past and take some guesses as to where we're going.
>
> Until Later!
> Hatton
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 8:37 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Political thoughts - reality check
>
>
> A good example of polarized is evidenced by the squabble in the Texas
> legislature over redistricting in order to ensure more republicans get
> elected
> to the US congress.
>
> They could not pass it is a regular session because the Democrats
> prevented a
> quorum by walking out
> Then in two later special sessions, there was another Walkout.
> Now in the third special session, and everyone is there, the republicans
> in the
> House and the Republicans in the Senate in conference cannot agree on
> whose home
> district will be eliminated in the final bill.
> In the final analysis it is self interest between republicans causing the
> stalemate. The whole economy and support for schools is being held
> hostage by
> the Governor pending passage of "his" bill.
>
> This, with the attempt to disenfranchise Democrats who supported Bush in
> his
> first election, is polarizing the entire state. Combine this with the
> layoffs,
> unemployment, and drastic drop in salaries and other compensation, the
> Republicans will need all the tricks in their bag to win re-election in
> 2004
>
> Add to this Bush's speech only today, "The economy is improved, it just
> needs a
> little more work. Tell this to the 9 million looking for work who cannot
> find
> jobs, and the increased enlistments in the Army, etc, by high school
> graduates
> who cannot find jobs.
>
> Were it not for the huge spending rate by the Defense department - the US
> economy would be in the middle of the worst depression, even exceeding the
> 1929
> event.
>
> No nuclear or WMD in Iraq - No person or money from Iraq contributed to
> 9/11 as
> we were led to believe. lies and more spin, but dubya is falling on his
> face,
> but he is taking care of his friends and contributors.
>
> Wonder how many more Republicans will wake up and smell the roses in the
> months
> to come?
>
> |
> | > TRUE STATEMENT:
> | > History repeats itself.
> | >
> | > QUESTION TO CONSIDER:
> | > Was America this divided and polarized before, during and after
> Prohibition?
> | > What about just after the Great Depression hit? Or maybe the Dust
> Bowl
> | > (which hit around the same time). What about when our country was
> founded?
> | >
> | > Having grown up in the South I thought everyone fought on the side of
> the
> | > colonies during the Revolution... only some small mention was made
> about
> | > Loyalists. Now that I live up here (Buffalo area) I'm seeing things
> like
> | > Old Fort Niagara... a Loyalist base during the Revolution.
> | >
> | > So, back to the original true statement that History repeats itself...
> what
> | > are we about to see?
> | >
> | > Until Later!
> | > Hatton
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>
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