I think the issue is that IE's support is not really "good enough".

Since IE controls the market, and writing to the standards does not work on IE, I think many (most?) sites make sure their site is working on IE and call that good enough.

Just a thought,
Jerry Johnson

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/15/03 05:13PM >>>
David Hyatt is one of the Safari developers, and (former?) Mozilla
driver, his blog is the best sources of info I know of for Safari.
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/

I've never seen Safari in the flesh, but with him on the team it's css
and dom support is bound to be more than good enough.

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jon
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Wednesday, October 15, 2003, 4:58:19 PM, you wrote:
SN> We had a report from a user of an error on one of our apps when viewing with
SN> Safari, but even that user confirmed it works fine for him in IE.  I just
SN> got a Mac OSX a few hours ago and started testing things out with Safari and
SN> found a lot of things don't work right--some consistently but most
SN> inconsistently.

SN> Our graphic designer says he uses Safari as his primary browser but often
SN> has trouble with some public web sites and when that happens he switches to
SN> IE for those sites and they work fine.

SN> So, is Safari really ready for prime time?  It is fully released and out of
SN> beta, right?  What do average users (non-programmers) think when they run
SN> into pages that don't display properly in Safari?  Do they blame (maybe
SN> curse) the developers?

SN> How many people out there say they support Safari on their sites?  Do you
SN> actively test with it?  If so are there known issues with work-arounds?

SN> We're having trouble with both Flash related and pure-HTML pages.  In one
SN> case we have a frameset and a little over half the time the bottom frame
SN> never shows up.  We can do a view source and all the right content is there.
SN> If we save it locally and load it's there.  If we open the frame in a new
SN> window it's there.  But inside the frameset, it's not always there--but it's
SN> inconsistent.

SN> Also, is there a good mailing list or forum for safari questions?  All I saw
SN> was the Apple web-development list which is everything including the kitchen
SN> sink in one list (apache, dhtml, _javascript_, php, mysql, safari, whatever).
SN> Not my idea of a productive list and since being subscribed for a few hours
SN> I haven't had a single message yet, so maybe it's not active either.


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