Before I answer that question, are there any serious Mac users on this
list?


I responded to a similar question on /., a debate ensued and I got
modded down as a troll.


Safari is in its infancy as a browser and is just learning how to walk.
You can support it, but you will be changing your applications every
year or so as new versions come out.


On some of the sites I maintain, there have not been any hits from a
Safari browser. The same is true for a lot of sites throughout the
Federal govt. (well, probably not for NEA).


You need to know your audience and make decisions based on evidence. If
even 1% of your users look at you through a Safari browser, consider
making it compliant but first look at the cost of maintaining it for the
next 5 years as Apple gets rolling with this thing.


M

-----Original Message-----
From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:58 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Is Safari really prime-time ready? Do we need to
consider it supported in our apps?


We had a report from a user of an error on one of our apps when
viewing with
Safari, but even that user confirmed it works fine for him in
IE.  I just
got a Mac OSX a few hours ago and started testing things out
with Safari and
found a lot of things don't work right--some consistently but
most
inconsistently.

Our graphic designer says he uses Safari as his primary browser
but often
has trouble with some public web sites and when that happens he
switches to
IE for those sites and they work fine.

So, is Safari really ready for prime time?  It is fully released
and out of
beta, right?  What do average users (non-programmers) think when
they run
into pages that don't display properly in Safari?  Do they blame
(maybe
curse) the developers?

How many people out there say they support Safari on their
sites?  Do you
actively test with it?  If so are there known issues with
work-arounds?

We're having trouble with both Flash related and pure-HTML
pages.  In one
case we have a frameset and a little over half the time the
bottom frame
never shows up.  We can do a view source and all the right
content is there.
If we save it locally and load it's there.  If we open the frame
in a new
window it's there.  But inside the frameset, it's not always
there--but it's
inconsistent.

Also, is there a good mailing list or forum for safari
questions?  All I saw
was the Apple web-development list which is everything including
the kitchen
sink in one list (apache, dhtml, _javascript_, php, mysql, safari,
whatever).
Not my idea of a productive list and since being subscribed for
a few hours
I haven't had a single message yet, so maybe it's not active
either.

Thanks,

Sam

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