sp
<http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/001/539dozfr.
asp>
"Last week Martin Palous, the Czech ambassador to the United States, gave me
the same account of Atta's time in Prague as other Czech officials had given
to New York Times columnist William Safire, who first wrote about the Atta
visit last November. Palous was home in Prague for consultations and a
vacation. Both Czech prime minister Milos Zeman and interior minister
Stanislav Gross have also publicly confirmed the meeting between Atta and
al-Ani."
That story about the Czechs denying it was BS. The Czech government and
intel people back it up. Hell they have pictures of the meet.
Timothy Heald
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-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:42 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: fair and balanced more on the Fox Survey
Really> Everything I've seen suggests the opposite. The Czechs have
descredited the report themselves. For instance:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/08/26/time.iraq/
<http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/08/26/time.iraq/>
Why promote the lies of Shrub.
larry
At 10:00 AM 10/20/2003, you wrote:
>The Czech reports of meeting between Al Qaeda and an Iraqi intel officer
are
>pretty damned near perfect and the reports about the Czechs denying them
>were false. Their government has said that the meet happened. It's that
>simple. Remember also, Al Qaeda isn't the only game in town. Iraqi
support
>of terrorism was a fact. Did they have a hand in 9/11, probably not, but
>they had plenty to do with supporting groups with funds and training
>worldwide.
>
>Tim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 9:55 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: fair and balanced more on the Fox Survey
>
>Actually, our esteemed VP Dick Cheney, as recently as two weeks ago, again
>said there was overwhelming proof of Saddam-Al Qaeda links.
>
>Don't you watch Fox News?
>
>=)
>
>Jerry Johnson
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/03 05:02PM >>>
>Don't blame it all on the outlet; you also have to blame the person.
>
>We know there were relationships between Saddam and terrorists, not al
>Qaeda, mind you, but we all knew Saddam gave 20k to the family of any
>Palestinian bomber.
>
>They have found things that would allow Iraq to create chemical weapons,
and
>they did find some chemical stuff at a terror camp in northern Iraq, some
>ricen IIRC.
>
>I don't know where the idea that people in other countries agreed with the
>war, but again, I would place the blame on the person, not the news outlet.
>
>My point is, people hear bits and pieces of the story, and they finish the
>rest in their head. Long before we went into Iraq Bush and the rest of the
>government said there was no connection between Iraq and the Sept 11th
>attacks, and there never seemed to be a connection between Iraq and al
>Qaeda.
>
>These guys almost all report the same stuff, some of them do manage to show
>it in a different light than, however the news the report is almost always
>the same. I can't speak for the commentators these different networks have,
>but if we accept what these guys say as fact, then shame on us.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:54 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: fair and balanced more on the Fox Survey
>
>More from the Post Op-Ed piece:
>
>In a series of polls from May through September, the researchers
>discovered that large minorities of Americans entertained some highly
>fanciful beliefs about the facts of the Iraqi war. Fully 48 percent
>of Americans believed that the United States had uncovered evidence
>demonstrating a close working relationship between Saddam Hussein and
>al Qaeda. Another 22 percent thought that we had found the weapons of
>mass destruction in Iraq. And 25 percent said that most people in
>other countries had backed the U.S. war against Saddam Hussein.
>Sixty percent of all respondents entertained at least one of these
>bits of dubious knowledge; 8 percent believed all three.
>
>The researchers then asked where the respondents most commonly went
>to get their news. The fair and balanced folks at Fox, the survey
>concludes, were "the news source whose viewers had the most
>misperceptions." Eighty percent of Fox viewers believed at least one
>of these un-facts; 45 percent believed all three. Over at CBS, 71
>percent of viewers fell for one of these mistakes, but just 15
>percent bought into the full trifecta. And in the daintier precincts
>of PBS viewers and NPR listeners, just 23 percent adhered to one of
>these misperceptions, while a scant 4 percent entertained all three.
>
><http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27061-2003Oct14.html>http:/
/www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27061-2003Oct14.html
><http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27061-2003Oct14.html>
>
>I knew there were some positive reasons why I listen to NPR news.
>
>larry
>--
>
>Larry C. Lyons
>
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>Life is Complex. It has both real and imaginary parts.
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>Chaos, Panic and Disorder. My work here is done.
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