http://www.soarecords.it/distro/tshirts/pages/judge.htm
Haven't found it for sale yet, but I'll keep looking.
Jerry Johnson
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/24/03 02:35PM >>>
SUB
HUM
ANS
Great - I'm off to the CD store after work now. It's been too long.
Hey, as long as I have all you aging punks' attention... does anyone
know where I can get a Judge t-shirt? I'm having a fit of nostalgia to
my old hardcore sXe days back in high school, and I used to have this
green t-shirt with Judge's two-sledgehammer logo on it - wore it all the
time (along with my GBH and Sick Of It All gear)... I'm sure there's
some 80's punk shop out there that has this stuff :)
- Jim
Jerry Johnson wrote:
>Google shows:
>
>Subhumans:Worlds Apart:Businessmen (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=CASS80306201527&sql=Adjtvad6kv8w8)
>
>Here comes the original business man
>He smiles at you as he shakes your hand
>'Listen to me', he's got a lot to say
>But you don't understand
>No you don't understand
>So you say 'O.K.'
>
>They'll do it once, they'll do it again
>The world is run by business men
>They'll do it once, they'll do it again
>The world is run by business men
>
>He takes your money, you take his word
>He tells you things you've never heard
>He says 'Sign here on the dotted line'
>But you don't understand
>No you don't understand
>But you think it's all right
>You think it's all right
>
>He disappears for a month or two
>He ripped you off and you dunno what to do
>You'd take him to court but you don't know his name
>Cos business men
>Yes business men
>Are all the same
>They're all the same
>
>They'll do it once, they'll do it again
>The world is run by business men
>They'll do it once, they'll do it again
>The world is run by business men
>
>Don't forget, it will soon appends to you
>
>
>
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>
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/24/03 02:12PM >>>
>>>>
>>>>
>Damn, now I'm not sure. I want to say the Vandals.
>
>Shawn
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 7:31 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Threat to the Internet
>
>
>It sounds like, but isn't from one of my favorite Rancid songs.
>
>--benD
>
>Shawn Regan wrote:
>
>
>
>>It was only a matter of time!
>>
>>
>>"They did it once they can do it again. The world is run by business men"
>>
>>
>>Name that punk band!
>>
>>
>>Shawn Regan
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:59 PM
>>To: CF-Community
>>Subject: Threat to the Internet
>>
>>Comments?
>>
>>http://www.msnbc.com/news/104404.asp
>>
>>
><http://www.msnbc.com/news/104404.asp>
><http://www.msnbc.com/news/104404.asp>
>
>
>>Domain names and the threat to the Net
>>
>>A tale of intrigue, double-dealing and global power struggles
>>
>>WASHINGTON - This is a tale that has all the intrigue, double-dealing and
>>global power struggles of a spy novel. But the plot line is real, with
>>nothing less then the fate of the Internet community hanging in the
>>
>>
>balance.
>
>
>>Call it the "Domain Name" factor.
>>It starts with a group of self-appointed technocrats, a kind of Internet
>>cabal, which operates with no authority of law or formal governance, which
>>has simply rushed in to fill the power vacuum on the Internet, which has,
>>since inception, operated in a spirit of consensus and community.
>> Not since the OPEC oil cartel of 1970s have so few held so many in
>>economic bondage. The Internet cabal holds no less power over the global
>>economic infrastructure we call cyberspace.
>> This cabal intends to control how and when new domain names will
>>
>>
>be
>
>
>>added to the current list of .com, .org, .edu, .gov and .mil, and who gets
>>the rights to act as a registry of those domain names.
>>
>> THE MEMO
>> The group operates from a document, known as the Generic Top Level
>>Domain Memorandum of Understanding, produced by 11 self-appointed
>>participants in closed-door meetings in Geneva.
>> The group set up a U.N.-style international tribunal that operates
>>under the auspices of the International Telecommunications Union, which
>>
>>
>has
>
>
>>headquarters in Geneva. The group steadfastly contends that the process
>>
>>
>has
>
>
>>been "open" from the beginning and that such a document is needed to
>>
>>
>ensure
>
>
>>fair competition and stability for the registration of domain names and
>>
>>
>the
>
>
>>Internet.
>> But the group has garnered no consensus in the Internet community.
>>During a two-day meeting on the issue of domain name registry held in
>>Washington last week, the veneer of openness and cooperation being spun by
>>the cabal began to be stripped away.
>> "Make no mistake, this process is not about technology, it is all
>>about power," said Jay Fenello, president of Iperdome, a small company
>>
>>
>that
>
>
>>is vying to compete in the domain name registry business.
>>
>> THE INTRIGUE
>> This whole mess started as a result of the troubles Network
>>
>>
>Solutions
>
>
>>Inc. had in its role as the sole administer of so-called "Top Level
>>
>>
>Domain"
>
>
>>names, those ending in .com, .edu, .org, etc. NSI operates as a
>>government-subsidized monopoly under a contract set to expire next year.
>> Anticipating the end of that monopoly, two influential groups
>>decided that some plan had to be put in motion to guide the Internet going
>>forward. Those two groups are the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority, or
>>IANA, and the Internet Society, known as ISOC.
>> The IANA operates under a loose charter from the U.S. government
>>
>>
>to
>
>
>>act as kind of administrator for handing out the blocs of numbers that are
>>tied to each formal domain name, such as MSNBC.COM, which are used by
>>
>>
>"root
>
>
>>servers" to determine what message goes where. The ISOC is a non-profit,
>>scientific, educational and charitable entity, incorporated in 1992 in
>>Washington.
>>
>> FUTURE OF THE INTERNET
>> These two groups put together the Internet International Ad Hoc
>>Committee, which hunkered down for eight weeks with members of the ITU and
>>World Intellectual Property Organization and hammered out the memo of
>>understanding, a document that essentially sets up a global governance
>>scheme for the future of the Internet.
>> That document spawned other organizations, such as the Policy
>>Oversight Committee, which is intended to oversee policies outlined in the
>>memo. Members of the oversight committee were chosen from those who
>>
>>
>drafted>
>
>>the document. It then fell to the ITU to circulate the memo for signatures
>>from its members, which are comprised of sovereign states.
>> To date, the memo has garnered more than more than 150
>>
>>
>signatories.
>
>
>>However, those signatories come with a huge caveat: not a single
>>
>>
>government,
>
>
>>save Albania, has signed on.
>> This process has drawn the ire of virtually everyone outside the
>>small cabal of organizations that had a hand in drafting the document. The
>>memo, "although without the stature of a treaty because it can be signed
>>
>>
>by
>
>
>>parties other than sovereign states, is clearly an intergovernmental
>>agreement that possesses significant binding force and effect . as public
>>international law," writes Tony Rutkowski, former executive director of
>>ISOC.
>> Remember, IANA and ISOC have absolutely no formal authority to
>>proceed with this process - they just decided to "do it." Indeed, when ITU
>>called a meeting of signatories and potential signatories of the memo in
>>Geneva earlier this year, Secretary of State Madeline Albright sent a
>>
>>
>secret
>
>
>>cable, which was leaked to the Internet, to the U.S. mission in Geneva,
>>upbraiding the ITU secretary general for calling such a meeting "without
>>authorization of the member governments." She instructed U.S. diplomats to
>>"cover" the meeting, but with lower-level staff, so as to not give the
>>appearance of U.S. support of the memo.
>>
>> DOUBLE-DEALING?
>> At the domain-name meeting in Washington, participants generally
>>acknowledged that there are no technical obstacles keeping an unlimited
>>number of top-level domain names from being created. This would allow the
>>creation of domain names like .sex, .web, .biz, .XYZ and so on. Indeed, an
>>additional seven domain names have been proposed by the Internet cabal,
>>
>>
>but
>
>
>>no more. The reason for limiting the number of top domains is simply to
>>appease the legal divisions of major international corporations; these
>>companies don't want to have to register their trademarks across
>>
>>
>potentially
>
>
>>hundreds of domain names.
>> Well, screw the suits. There are courts established for protecting
>>trademarks. Policing trademarks is a cost of doing business in the analog
>>world; it should be no different in cyberspace. Artificially limiting the
>>number of domain names, when there is no technological reason to do so, is
>>yet another attempt by the Internet cabal to enforce its control over the
>>Net.
>> As part of that control, the cabal has set up what it calls the
>>Council of Registrars, which will operate under Swiss law. Companies are
>>encouraged to submit applications to become an official registrar of
>>
>>
>domain
>
>
>>names under the council. Only companies accepted by the council will be
>>allowed to compete in the open market to register new domain names, as
>>approved by the memo. Small catch: In order to be "approved" companies
>>
>>
>must
>
>
>>first sign onto the memo and pony up $10,000.
>> To take care of trademark disputes, the council will have an
>>
>>
>appeals
>
>
>>tribunal known as the "administrative domain name challenge panel."
>> This is seen as a threat to intellectual property and trademarks
>>
>>
>by
>
>
>>Andrew L. Sernovitz, president of the Interactive Media Association and
>>founder of the Open Internet Congress, a group dedicated to thwarting the
>>efforts of the Internet cabal.
>> The panels "conduct their work in Geneva or via online
>>
>>
>discussions,"
>
>
>>Sernovitz says in a document on his group's web site. "You will have no
>>right to a face-to-face defense against your challenger, he says.
>> Further, "During the challenge period, your Internet address can
>>
>>
>be
>
>
>>suspended," Sernovitz says. "If you lose a case . you will have lost your
>>rights forever. There is no appeals process and there is no one to sue."
>>
>> THE POWER GRAB
>> The cabal is moving this process forward on a fast track, claiming
>>that action must be taken quickly to keep the Internet from folding in on
>>itself. This hurry-up stance goes against the entire culture of the
>>
>>
>Internet
>
>
>>and is yet another reason why critics claim the memo is simply a power
>>
>>
>grab.
>
>
>> The moves by this cabal are set on a train wreck course with the
>>U.S. government. Currently a government interagency working group is
>>
>>
>asking
>
>
>>the Internet community for suggestions on how to handle the domain name
>>issue. On July 2, the Commerce Department put a notice in the Federal
>>Register seeking comments on how to proceed with the issue. "The
>>
>>
>Government
>
>
>>has not endorsed any plan at this time but believes that it is very
>>important to reach consensus on these policy issues as soon as possible,"
>>the notice says.
>>
>> HANGING IN THE BALANCE
>> In discussions with dozens of people ranging from industry to
>>government officials, a theme I keep hearing is that this structure of
>>global governance for the Internet won't stop at domain names. "The
>>governance models that we choose today for the Internet will be the ones
>>that are placed on society in the next century," a U.S. government
>>
>>
>official
>
>
>>told me, in what he admittedly called a "messianic" remark. "Sometimes
>>
>>
>this
>
>
>>thought keeps me up at night."
>> I won't go that far, but I do know that setting up a global body
>>that operates on the U.N. model will sound the death knell for an open and
>>thriving spirit of innovation and cooperation that has driven the Internet
>>to date. Such a governing body, emboldened by a successful domain name
>>
>>
>coup,
>
>
>>isn't likely to stop there. They will take on other issues, such as
>>
>>
>content
>
>
>>and marketing, in a kind of cyberspace governing mission creep.
>> Let's hope that enough people respond to the Commerce Department's
>>notice in time for the government to step up and stop the Internet cabal
>>before it puts its plan into action.
>>
>> Meeks out ...
>>
>> _____
>>
>>
>>
>>
> _____
>
>
>
>
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