To be honest, it comes down to performance and Nvidia as a company have not
recently enamoured themselves to me with their underhand test results
tuning.

ATI currently lead the pack in terms of price performance and this is what
it comes down to in the end. I want to buy a card that will have a product
life of at least 3-4 years.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 04 November 2003 17:03
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: RE: NVidia

  I will continue to buy the best nvidia has to offer because of brand
  loyalty. I like the product they put out and am not a bandwagoner who
  just gives up on someone i really enjoy. I like thier corporation and
  their company policies and how they deal with customers since i wrote
  them a letter once and i was really suprised with the response. Max
  payne 2 with my geforce4 ti4600 was awesome i have no complaints about
  the game play or graphics at all.
  *Shrugs* Similar to the Intel/Amd stuff, people stick with who they like
  and are familier with. Both companies make good products and its just a
  matter of personal choice i suppose. But some people like ATi *Shrugs* i
  might get an ati card one day just to have a tv tuner card ;)

  --
  Bill Wheatley
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  eDiets.com, Inc.
  (OTCBB: EDET)
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 11:17 PM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: RE: NVidia

  Apparently..they still suck ;-)

  These new cards still don't provide a good reason to buy this crop of
  Nvidia cards over the ATIs.

  In Max Payne2...another Direct X 9 game (the ones the Nvidia DX9 cards
  have all the trouble with *chuckle*)..the new ATI 9800XT more than
  doubles the framerate of the latest Nvidia offerings.

  This from a comparison based on HALO...another DX9 game:

  "With framerate dips below 30FPS constantly and into the teens, the
  GeForceFX 5950Ultra is simply not going to provide the same level of
  gaming experience as the ATI Radeon 9800XT will provide."

  As past reviewers have said, new drivers and increased clock speed won't
  help Nvidia cards, or their owners. Nvidia needs to go back to silicon
  and re-engineer their hardware to work the way DX9 expects a card to
  work.

  I don't see why anyone with a little bit of knowledge would buy an
  Nvidia card now if they want to run the latest DX9 software.

  -Gel

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  http://arstechnica.com/archive/news/1067104742.html

  Links to benchmarks on the FX 5700U and 5950U, a mix of the good and the
  bad.

  M

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