We invade country to save it from a totalitarian regime and threat to the US
We engage in a public affairs campaign to get the native people behind us.
Everything starts off well then collapses into quagmire
US public widely decries the involvement in a foreign country
Soldiers get killed every day defending a country that detests their presence.
That compares somewhat to Vietnam, doesn't it?
- Matt Small
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Ousterhout
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: Bush resume
You may be able to spell. But it appears that you can't compare.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:28 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Bush resume
I can spell and say it.
I - R - A - Q. Vietnam.
- Matt Small
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Ousterhout
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: Bush resume
Nope. LBJ. Can you say Vietnam.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:18 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Bush resume
He might have meant Andrew Johnson...
- Matt Small
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry C. Lyons
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:06 PM
Subject: RE: Bush resume
Given Johnson's record on the Civil Rights bill and continuing
Kennedy's
legislative agenda, I think its rather inappropriate for him to be on
this
list.
Nixon on the other hand...
larry
At 01:16 PM 11/20/2003, you wrote:
>Jimmy C., Johnson, and the current list of contenders...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:52 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Bush resume
>
> If that bunch of presidents includes Ulysses S. Grant, Gerald Ford
and
> the one in Superman 2 who knelt before Zod like a bitch, I might
just
> agree with you :)
>
> - Jim
>
> Andy Ousterhout wrote:
>
> >LOL. And probably not too far off.
> >
> >I clearly don't think that Bush is a great president, he just
happens
> to be
> >the best of the bunch.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:25 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Bush resume
> >
> >
> > I think "thinking big" is a large part of Bush's popularity. I
don't
> > think he has a clue about how to manage the economy (or give
the
> > impression of managing the economy), but there were a _lot_ of
big,
bold
> > "big picture" initiatives that were pushed through after the
attacks.
> > War On Terrorism! (Swoosh!), Department of Homeland Defense!
(Shazam!),
> > PATRIOT Act! (Kerpow!), Operation Enduring Freedom! (Kaboom!).
They
> > were impressive feats of bureaucratic manipulation, but the
economic
> > policies seem wan and uncreative.
> >
> > Here's a check for $300 - have fun. I'm cutting taxes, sort
of.
Oh,
> > uh, here's another check for $400, go get yourself something
nice,
ok?
> >
> > It seems to me that the "Economy" as a whole is sort of rooted
in
> > large-group psychology. While I don't believe the president
himself has
> > that much *actual* control over the economy, I think his and
his
> > administration's attitude towards it can play into the general
> > perception of how things are going and make people more
optimistic
about
> > things.
> >
> > - Jim
> >
> > Andy Ousterhout wrote:
> >
> > >And that is news to who?
> > >
> > >Presidents need to think big. Short term fixes create a
pendulum
>effect,
> >long
> > >term changes have long term impacts.
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:49 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Bush resume
> > >
> > >
> > > Nobel winners attack Bush economics
> > >
> > > "Regardless of how one views the specifics of the Bush plan,
there is
> >wide
> > >agreement that its purpose is a permanent change in the tax
structure
>and
> >not
> > >the creation of jobs and growth in the near term," the
economists
said
>in a
> > >statement published by the Economic Policy Institute.
> > >
> > >
>
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2735269.stm>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/bu
siness/2735269.stm
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Andy Ousterhout
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:05 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Bush resume
> > >
> > > I guess all the economists are wrong too. If it were not
for
that
>damn
> > >Bush:
> > > 1 All of the world's ills would be cured.
> > > 2. All of the excesses of the 90's would have
retroactively
> > >disappeared,
> > > 3. All of those BAD business people who quickly
realized
that
>BUSH
> >was
> > > lax on businesses would not have been able to implement evil
business
> > > practices SO quickly that it appeared that they had been
following
>them
> > >since
> > > the 90's
> > > 4. Business would be ignoring the lower cost of labor
in
other
> > >countries
> > > and would have continued to hire people who provided
diminishing
> value
> >for
> > >the
> > > love of country(sorry, God's out)
> > > 5. All of those foreigners who think that we suck would
not
be
> >risking
> > > life and limb to sneak into OUR country voluntarily work
for,
god
>forbid,
> > > below minimum wage, and send huge amounts of their paltry
earnings
>back
> >to
> > > their highly advantaged family who stayed home to live a
life of
>luxury.
> > > 6. Yale's image would have remained untarnished
> > >
> > > My bad.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:39 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Bush resume
> > >
> > > Actually the statement that the economy is in a
turnaround, is
more
>pie
> >in
> > > the
> > > sky. Jobs continue to be lost, prosecutions of those
involved
in
> >business
> > > fraud, and securities scams are still running at a less
than
> >enthusiastic
> > > rate.
> > > Our borders are still insecure. Non-Mexican illegal
immigrants are
> >still
> > > released into the streets after capture by the INS. His
energy and
>oil
> > > patch
> > > friends are still not being called to account for their
mis-deeds.
>Our
> > > reputation internationally has sunk to a historic low.
But I
do
>have
> >to
> > > credit
> > > him for this, he still has a fanatic following, and the
big
bucks
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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