1. Remember all the monks making money in Fountainhead and Shrugged that
didn't have ability?  The looters run this place man.


2. What in a free market would prohibit a company from wanting some sort of
assurances that you have a certain basic knowledge?  That's what a degree is
for.


3. The best/worst thing is not true in a free market.  You can still get
lucky, know someone, or just work hard as hell doing a menial job which
requires little knowledge.


4. We do not live in an ideal free market economy.

--
Timothy Heald
Web Portfolio Manager
Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State
571.345.2319

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-----Original Message-----
From: a cantrl. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:00 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: I need a little pick me up

>I am in the same situation.

Tim, why not take Ayn Rand seriously and test your abilities in the true
free market system? In the Free Market, the best are the ones who make the
most and the worst are the ones who make the least. A "degree" means nothing
in the true Free Market, so why limit yourself?

>I am in the same situation.  Our CFO came here last week to personally
thank
>me and my team for all the work we put in for this nasty project we had.
>While he was here I told him that I was going after my GSEC and CISSP, and
>he started lecturing me basically, that they wouldn't be able to promote me
>higher than I already am without a degree, that they wanted to but
couldn't.
>
>I am going to have to find a way to make time to go.  I am looking into
>strayer now.
>
>--
>Timothy Heald
>Web Portfolio Manager
>Overseas Security Advisory Council
>U.S. Department of State
>571.345.2319
>
>The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S.
>Department of State or any affiliated organization(s).  Nor have these
>opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail is
>unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Phillip B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:23 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: I need a little pick me up
>
>
>We are having our end of the year reviews. I have a new boss that has
>turned out to be real cool. She looked to see what the average income
>some one like myself should be making and told her boss that I needed a
>big raise. He said that despite the money I have saved the company, tens
>of thousands, my streamlining of every ones job, my dedication blah,
>blah, blah,...... I wont get one. You know why? My ten years of
>experience, college but no degree, and training are not equivalent to a
>bachelors degree. :-|
>
>I was hired to write and maintain eight CF web sites for the company.
>Now I manage five servers, an email server, twenty plus sites, I'm the
>DBA, and a countless number of other jobs I hate to think about. I'm
>still getting paid squat. This job has taken the fun out of web
>development. I'm ready to walk away from it all. Get a job cooking again
>or some thing. At least I know what is expected of a cook.
>
>I feel a little better now.
>
>Phillip B.
>  _____
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