Personally I'd rather have smart people being brought into this country than them being sent elsewhere. I believe having intelligent people here it is a good long-term strategy for making this country better; no matter where they were born.
I understand that many of the criticisms of such programs, such as H1B Visa, is that companies are bringing in foreigners to jobs that native USA-residents are qualified to do; and the workers brought in are treated as indenture servants. I do not know enough about said programs to tell whether that is a valid concern of a bunch of FUD. Qasim Rasheed wrote: > Scott, > > I know your comments weren't directed towards anyone in particular and I > have also seen the misuse of the program myself. However the thing that > bothers me that people try to put all the blame on this program. I know, I > came to this country legally, paid all my taxes for 7+ years and earned my > green card. I hope we all appreciate the usefulness of real skills coming to > this country (which I am now proud to call my second home). > > Thanks > > Qasim > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Scott Stewart > <sstwebwo...@bellsouth.net>wrote: > > >> There's nothing wrong with the program, if as you said it's used >> appropriately. But it is a program that needs to be tightened up by the new >> administration so that there is less chance for abuse. >> >> Unfortunately it's a program that I've personally been burned by a couple >> of >> times. >> >> Qasim, I hope you understand that my comments don't reflect on you >> personally. >> >> -- >> Scott Stewart >> ColdFusion Developer >> 4405 Oakshyre Way >> Raleigh, NC 27616 >> (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Qasim Rasheed [mailto:qasim.li...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 4:32 PM >> To: cf-jobs-talk >> Subject: Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical >> Recruiting.. >> >> >> What's wrong with H1B visa if used appropriately. I came to this country >> based on that facility and have been able to become a permanent citizen. >> >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Ravi Gehlot <r...@ravigehlot.net> wrote: >> >> >>> Correct. There are good recruiters as there are bad ones. There are good >>> and bad everywhere. So it is important to work with someone that you >>> trust. Every programmer must do their own research. >>> >>> Ravi. >>> >>> >>> Scott Stewart wrote: >>> >>>> I've worked with both, if I do go down this road I know who I don't >>>> >> want >> >>> to >>> >>>> be and that the guy who recruits by attrition. I've been the recipient >>>> >> of >> >>>> the fishing email and phone calls dozens of times, and it's never >>>> >> panned >> >>>> out. >>>> >>>> Someone with horribly broken English calls about a job half way across >>>> >>> the >>> >>>> country and my first response is "are they considering telecommuters", >>>> >>> the >>> >>>> answer is usually no, or "what?". >>>> >>>> My next question is "is your client willing to contract a relocation >>>> >>> company >>> >>>> to move myself and my wife and buy our house". The answer again is >>>> >>> usually >>> >>>> no, and then they ask if I'm willing to rent an apartment wherever the >>>> >>> job >>> >>>> is, my answer is always no, because by this point, their asking me to >>>> >>> take a >>> >>>> financial loss to work for their client. >>>> >>>> On the other hand there are a handful of recruiters with whom I have >>>> >> had >> >>>> very very successful relationships with, and one in particular who has >>>> become a pretty good friend.. why, because they're honest stand up >>>> >> people >> >>>> who look at prospective employment candidates as something more than >>>> >> just >> >>> an >>> >>>> email address or a means to fulfill US State Department guidelines, to >>>> >>> bring >>> >>>> in H1B Visas candidates. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Scott Stewart >>>> ColdFusion Developer >>>> 4405 Oakshyre Way >>>> Raleigh, NC 27616 >>>> (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11