Personally I'd rather have smart people being brought into this country 
than them being sent elsewhere.  I believe having intelligent people 
here it is a good long-term strategy for making this country better; no 
matter where they were born. 

 I understand that many of the criticisms of such programs, such as H1B 
Visa, is that companies are bringing in foreigners to jobs that native 
USA-residents are qualified to do; and the workers brought in are 
treated as indenture servants. I do not know enough about said programs 
to tell whether that is a valid concern of a bunch of FUD. 

Qasim Rasheed wrote:
> Scott,
>
> I know your comments weren't directed towards anyone in particular and I
> have also seen the misuse of the program myself. However the thing that
> bothers me that people try to put all the blame on this program. I know, I
> came to this country legally, paid all my taxes for 7+ years and earned my
> green card. I hope we all appreciate the usefulness of real skills coming to
> this country (which I am now proud to call my second home).
>
> Thanks
>
> Qasim
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Scott Stewart 
> <sstwebwo...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
>   
>> There's nothing wrong with the program, if as you said it's used
>> appropriately. But it is a program that needs to be tightened up by the new
>> administration so that there is less chance for abuse.
>>
>> Unfortunately it's a program that I've personally been burned by a couple
>> of
>> times.
>>
>> Qasim, I hope you understand that my comments don't reflect on you
>> personally.
>>
>> --
>> Scott Stewart
>> ColdFusion Developer
>> 4405 Oakshyre Way
>> Raleigh, NC 27616
>> (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Qasim Rasheed [mailto:qasim.li...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 4:32 PM
>> To: cf-jobs-talk
>> Subject: Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical
>> Recruiting..
>>
>>
>> What's wrong with H1B visa if used appropriately. I came to this country
>> based on that facility and have been able to become a permanent citizen.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Ravi Gehlot <r...@ravigehlot.net> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Correct. There are good recruiters as there are bad ones. There are good
>>> and bad everywhere. So it is important to work with someone that you
>>> trust. Every programmer must do their own research.
>>>
>>> Ravi.
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott Stewart wrote:
>>>       
>>>> I've worked with both, if I do go down this road I know who I don't
>>>>         
>> want
>>     
>>> to
>>>       
>>>> be and that the guy who recruits by attrition. I've been the recipient
>>>>         
>> of
>>     
>>>> the fishing email and phone calls dozens of times, and it's never
>>>>         
>> panned
>>     
>>>> out.
>>>>
>>>> Someone with horribly broken English calls about a job half way across
>>>>         
>>> the
>>>       
>>>> country and my first response is "are they considering telecommuters",
>>>>         
>>> the
>>>       
>>>> answer is usually no, or "what?".
>>>>
>>>> My next question is "is your client willing to contract a relocation
>>>>         
>>> company
>>>       
>>>> to move myself and my wife and buy our house". The answer again is
>>>>         
>>> usually
>>>       
>>>> no, and then they ask if I'm willing to rent an apartment wherever the
>>>>         
>>> job
>>>       
>>>> is, my answer is always no, because by this point, their asking me to
>>>>         
>>> take a
>>>       
>>>> financial loss to work for their client.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand there are a handful of recruiters with whom I have
>>>>         
>> had
>>     
>>>> very very successful relationships with, and one in particular who has
>>>> become a pretty good friend.. why, because they're honest stand up
>>>>         
>> people
>>     
>>>> who look at prospective employment candidates as something more than
>>>>         
>> just
>>     
>>> an
>>>       
>>>> email address or a means to fulfill US State Department guidelines, to
>>>>         
>>> bring
>>>       
>>>> in H1B Visas candidates.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Scott Stewart
>>>> ColdFusion Developer
>>>> 4405 Oakshyre Way
>>>> Raleigh, NC 27616
>>>> (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>       
>>
>>
>>     
>
> 

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