To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Judith Dinowitz) Subject: experience << At 10:41 PM 8/22/2000 -0400, you wrote: More commonly, I've seen one to two years experience as the norm. But there are far more beginners with about the same level of experience as Ellen out there, and it's impossible to get that experience if no one will even take you on as an intern! << I don't think it takes two years to master Cold Fusion. Maybe 1 year tops. It isn't the length of time you have worked with CF that counts, it's the projects you've done during that time, and your prior experience. For instance, I entered into Cold Fusion having already had 2 years Javascript/VBScript/DHTML/CSS behind my belt. The more languages you learn, the easier it is to pick up new ones. Now I'm at about the 10 month mark and although I haven't done a lot of session management stuff, I'd consider myself fairly capable, and what I don't know, I can learn pretty quicky if the project requires it. I've learned a lot in my new job that I wasn't learning in my last one because the code I had been working on was not fully database enabled. So the nature of the work means a lot. I had six months of experience with Cold Fusion and ZERO SQL experience, just modifying some queries and stuff. Plus that was all maintenance and revisioning, no from-scratch development outside of CFModules. Now I have full rights to make and modify SQL databases, get into the CF Administrator, and so on. So I've been able to learn a great deal more. Employers who are looking simply at the resume are really going to miss out on some great talent. There are TOO MANY LANGUAGES out there. ASP, Cold Fusion, PSP, Tango, Vignette(TCL/TKL), CGI/Perl, and so on. It's not going to be easy for an employer to staff up just gurus in any one of these technologies. Most web developers are going to have experience in a mix of these languages rather than just one, hence they are unlikely to have 2, 3, or more years experience, not to mention the fact that aside from CGI, template languages like these are all very new to the scene. So someone with a lot of years experience was one of only a very small pool of people who got their feet wet when all this stuff was brand new. However, the majority of the workforce have entered in more recently. In my case, from the HTML-layout and client scripting end, which I'm assuming isn't that uncommon, and others coming in from the OOP C++ angle. The important thing is to be adaptable. If you can show an aptitude to learn and to leverage experience learned in related fields, then you are immensely valuable in the dynamic world of computers. If employers don't see that, then you shouldn't even try working for them anyway. Glenn Saunders - Producer - Cyberpunks Entertainment Personal homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/1698 Cyberpunks Entertainment: http://cyberpunks.uni.cc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_jobs or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
