A note to all your recruiters out there. This man will always try to 
have the last word in an argument even though he is blatantly wrong.

He will be hell to work with.

Terry,
The major issue here is that CF has really only come of age since CF MX 
enabling it to take on board *some* established design methodologies and 
practices that have been around for DECADES.

So please don't go on about 'modern web based applications' and 'modern 
day networking' as if that is somehow something nobody has been working. 
Networks, database servers, application servers have been around for 
decades. The internet (ARPANET http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET ) 
was turned on at the end of 1969.

I would also point out that somebody with 20 years experience in IT 
could be 38 years old.

I would suggest you go away and read "/*The Mythical Man-Month: Essays 
on Software Engineering" 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month.
*/
First published 1975. That would be 32 years ago and STILL absolutely 
f'n relevant today.

When you've finished there try getting hold of Code Complete 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Complete, admittedly published in 
1993, 14 years ago. Admittedly not within your 10 year "everything 
relevant" time line but exceptionally relevant if you code. He did do a 
2004 update just to make you feel comfortable with your "only relevant 
if in the last 10 years".

Once you have finished with those, you could get side tracked by other 
Steve McConnel books http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_McConnell. I 
personally recommend Rapid Development. 11 years old, but still very 
good if you 'manage' your projects.

At some point you might start hankering after something more recent 
because obviously anything over 10 years old is not relevant, so take a 
dive into the Head First Design Patterns. A stunning book and published 
not toooo long ago, so shouldn't make you feel like you are wasting your 
time and effort on 'old' technology. Ironically, something CF was unable 
to take on board until CF MX came along.

Just remember that the internet is almost 40 years old.

Regards,
Adam
PS: Apologies to the group for posting this, but the arrogance Terry is 
displaying with his fake apology  has annoyed me slightly.

Bader, Terrence C CTR MARMC, 231 wrote:
> Wow, what I response to an honest post.  I apologize to those that were
> offended.  My intent was to let the hiring manager beware that someone
> who says they have 20+ experience should throw a flag especially on a
> posting about an entry level job. And a flag only to inspect more
> closely.  Specifically one that the hirer posted with stated
> technologies by the replier which were all well developed technologies
> in the last decade and nothing including mainframes, tubes, Pascal,
> cobal, management, punch cards, etc.  And everyone is right IT covers so
> many things, but in context, about CF and modern web based applications,
> we are talking about Internet based IT.  Internet referring to the
> modern day networking that we have.  Shot, I worked with  electronic
> radios and radars with tubed based designed while in the Navy,  can I
> add those 5 years to  my number of years in IT.  Honestly I wouldn't
> feel right doing so.  And anyone that has 20+ years in IT, man take this
> as a compliment as there really aren't as many people with that as try
> to claim to be.  I hope ya'll made bank on it, I would have been glad to
> be in your shoes then.
>
> So peeps, my apologies for being honest and upsetting people and posting
> what I would have "red" flagged.  It wasn't intended to flame just
> mentioning a cautious note in hiring practices as peeps do tend to
> "exaggerate".  Not like any of us have ever done so though. :P
>
> And if you feel I need a flogging still, please meet me out at the bar
> sometime and ya'll can take turns.  Only as long as I am allowed a drink
> inbetween.
>
>
> ~Terry
>
> MARMC Fleet Scheduling Center 
> Programming Support
> 757.443.3872 x1870
> https://www.marmc.nmci.navy.mil/200/fsc/
>
>
>
> 

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