Dear Jonathan,

    I really appreciate your thoroughness. Yes - there can also be the need to 
record the "daily maximum 1-hour value".

   Just to wet your appetite: it can get worse than that if you look at the US 
EPA ozone standard: "0.075 ppm over 8 hour period: To attain this standard, the 
3-year average of the fourth-highest daily maximum 8-hour average ozone 
concentrations measured at each monitor within an area over each year must not 
exceed 0.075 ppm." Or (even better) from a new standard proposal 
http://www.epa.gov/air/ozonepollution/fr/20100119.pdf : "cumulative, seasonal 
standard expressed as an annual index of the sum of weighted hourly 
concentrations, cumulated over 12 hours per day (8 am to 8 pm) during the 
consecutive 3-month period within the O3 season with the maximum index value, 
set at a level within the range of 7 to 15 ppm-hours"

   These kind of "interval" definitions may not be imminent right now, but as 
we are trying to engage the air quality community in "semantic 
interoperability", I am quite sure this will come up eventually. Is there any 
other community out there that has similar issues?

Cheers,

Martin




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Gregory [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:40 AM
> To: Schultz, Martin
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: daily maximum of running 8-hour means
>
> Dear Martin
>
> Yes, I agree, "interval" is an ambiguous word, unfortunately.
>
> > YES - there will be a need for this. Current air quality data bases -
> > the largest are probably the American AQS and the European AirBase
> > systems - do store hourly data and "daily max 8-hour mean" values, and
> > you want to be able to differentiate between those automatically
>
> OK. The distinction between those two can already be made like this:
>
> - hourly data have coordinates spaced hourly, and cell_methods with "mean"
> or "point" (depending on wheher they were hourly time-means or
> instantaneous values at hourly intervals).
>
> - daily max of running means have coordinates spaced daily, and
> cell_methods with "maximum".
>
> What we *can't* record in a standardised way is the extra information that
> the maximum was calculated from running means. We need to do this if
> there are also daily maxima calculated from other kinds of subdaily data.
>
> I apologise if this is frustrating. I am trying only to clarify what is 
> needed in
> practice!
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jonathan

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