Hi John,

All the assumptions you state are correct. 

Regarding the usage of the data, there exists a specialized application that 
uses this data. The problem is that others are interested in the same data, and 
I have no control over how they will use it. Because of that, I want the 
generated file to follow any standards as closely as possible.


-- Vegard




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Fra: "John Caron" <[email protected]>
Til: [email protected]
Sendt: 15. november 2011 14:38:24
Emne: Re: [CF-metadata] standards for probabilities

Hi Vegard:

I see some of these kinds of things from NCEP, encoded in GRIB, and Im 
still trying to understand what they are. So, some questions from a 
non-modeler:

On 11/15/2011 2:10 AM, Vegard Bønes wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I am trying to create a document containing various probability values for 
> weather forecasts. But I do have some problems finding out how to express 
> what I want to say using the cf metadata standard.
>
> I want to express such things as "25th percentile precipitation amount" 
> (based on ensemble data), and probability that air temperature will be within 
> 2.5 degrees of the forecast. How should I do this?

these are 2 different things, i guess?

1)  "25th percentile precipitation amount" (based on ensemble data)

* so here the data values are precip amounts? calculated from the 
cumulative distribution function (cdf) from an ensemble?
* do you typically have other percentile amounts in the same file, eg 50 
and 75?
* presumably this is some distillation of the cdf, used when the 
individual ensemble values are not in the file?
* is there any special handling that a generic tool could do, or is it a 
matter a just making this data available to some specialized application 
that you write?


2) probability that air temperature will be within 2.5 degrees of the 
forecast

* so here the data values are probabilities between 0 and 1 ?
* do you typically have other probabilities in the same file, eg within 
1 degree, or 5 degrees?
* is there any special handling that a generic tool could do with such info?

john
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