Dear Heinke, Frank, Karl and Jonathan,

The CMIP5 regions I was thinking of were the names of various sea channels and 
straits. We added a lot of physical oceanography standard names for CMIP5 and 
among them were ocean mass and heat transports due to a number of processes and 
calculated in a number of locations such as:

 barents_opening
  bering_strait
  denmark_strait
  drake_passage
  english_channel
  equatorial_undercurrent
  faroe_scotland_channel
  florida_strait
  fram_strait
  iceland_faroe_channel
  indonesian_throughflow
  mozambique_channel
  scotland_iceland_channel
  taiwan_and_luzon_straits
  windward_passage.

These were discussed as far back as 2008 and I don't think there were any 
objections to having them as region names but they have never been added to the 
list.

Karl and Jonathan (offlist) have both responded to say that they would like the 
region names to be maintained as a controlled vocabulary along with the 
standard name and area type tables. I'm happy to do this and I will update the 
region list to add the above names and  contiguous_united_states at the same 
time as the next standard name table update.

I don't know about the region requirements of projects such as CORDEX - I think 
the region names are all intended to be geographical areas rather than areas 
covered by particular projects. If you need to add any further geographical 
regions please let me know via the mailing list.

According to the text in the current document there are no countries in the 
list but they can be added. Is there an active need to include all the 
countries in the ISO list? I assume that you are suggesting adding the country 
names, rather than the short codes.

Best wishes,
Alison

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Heinke Hoeck
Sent: 12 January 2012 10:58
To: Karl Taylor; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Request for a region standard_name

Dear Karl and all,

for CMIP5 we presently have no information about certain regions 
(observations?). Do you mean the subregions as defined in follow up projects 
as, e.g., CORDEX?

As far as countries are concerned we strongly recommend to use the ISO 
normalization as explained, e.g., here:
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2
This probably also will us enable to solve the "GB/UK problem".

Best wishes
Heinke & Frank
On 01/12/2012 02:36 AM, Karl Taylor wrote:
Dear Alison and all,

I have not objection to adding the region.  I also favor the Standard Names 
Committee (and you) be responsible for the region names.  Finally, I would ask 
the committee to consider adding any CMIP5 region identifiers to the official 
list, unless of course those names seem inappropriate.

thanks,
Karl

On 1/11/12 7:00 AM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
wrote:

Dear Jonathan,



In September Jim Biard requested a standardized region name for the contiguous 
United States. Several people commented and there was general agreement that 
contiguous_united_states would be a suitable string to add to the list of 
region names.



Before I proceed, however, I note that the file on the CF website which 
contains the region names also contains the following introductory text:

"This list was based on the NASA GCMD keyword list for locations which was 
valid on 12 December 2002. We retained only the names of geographical regions 
from the GCMD list, changing them to lower case and replacing the separators 
within the names by underscores to be consistent with the style used for CF 
standard names. We excluded (a) countries (these could be added if required), 
(b) regions that could be specified by coordinate ranges in CF (e.g. western 
hemisphere), (c) ill-defined regions (e.g. west Africa), (d) names for layers 
and surfaces of the Earth (e.g. mantle, sea floor), which are or would be 
included in standard names if required. We have also added names shown like 
this. Our intention is to keep this list consistent with GCMD."



I wonder if this list has ever been updated since December 2002 (I certainly 
haven't made any changes). Does the list need to be reviewed? Also, strictly 
speaking, the region list is separate from the standard name table, so do we 
want it to be maintained along with standard names (I'm happy to keep it up to 
date if the answer is 'yes') or should it be regarded as the domain of the 
conventions committee? I'd appreciate it if we can clarify who should be 
maintaining the list before I go ahead and start making modifications. I think 
there may be some CMIP5 related region names that are also not currently part 
of the list.



Best wishes,

Alison



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NCAS/British Atmospheric Data Centre    Email: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory

R25, 2.22

Harwell Oxford, Didcot, OX11 0QX, U.K.







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[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Jonathan Gregory

Sent: 16 September 2011 16:55

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Request for a region standard_name



Dear Jim



Following Don's comment, if you'd be happy with a standard region name

of

contiguous_united_states, and since no-one else has objected, I think

we

should agree to that. (We can omit of_america; I would expect people to

know

where the united_kingdom is without

of_great_britain_and_northern_ireland!)

I expect Alison will comment and/or add it to the table when she is

able to.



Cheers



Jonathan

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