Dear all,

Thanks for everyone's inputs on the atmosphere stability indices. I have one important comment re: the lifted index. This product will definitely need both the starting and ending pressures of the lifted parcel in order to properly define the product. This is because the starting and ending pressures are not fixed to certain values (unlike some other ad-hoc indices that I have proposed, e.g. total totals index) and can, in principle, have any values. I know that there have been a lot of ideas for what to chose as the coordinate variable standard names. I'm going to go with Jonathan Gregory's latest suggestion - original_air_pressure - and expand on this to create one for final_air_pressure. So, my current proposal for the two lifted index products are:

Standard Name:   
temperature_difference_between_ambient_air_and_air_lifted_adiabatically_from_the_surface

Definition:This quantity is defined as the temperature difference between a parcel of air lifted adiabatically from the surface to a finishing air pressure in the troposphere and the ambient air temperature at the finishing air pressure in the troposphere. It is often called the lifted index (LI) and provides a measure of the instability of the atmosphere. The air parcel is "lifted" by moving the air parcel from the surface to the Lifting Condensation Level (dry adiabatically) and then from the Lifting Condensation Level to the finishing air pressure (wet adiabatically). Air temperature is the bulk temperature of the air, not the surface (skin) temperature. The term "surface" means the lower boundary of the atmosphere. A coordinate variable of final_air_pressure_of_lifted_parcel should be specified to indicate the specific air pressure that the temperature difference is calculated at.

Canonical Units:   K

Standard Name:
temperature_difference_between_ambient_air_and_air_lifted_adiabatically

Definition:This quantity is defined as the temperature difference between a parcel of air lifted adiabatically from a starting air pressure to a finishing air pressure in the troposphere and the ambient air temperature at the finishing air pressure in the troposphere. It is often called the lifted index (LI) and provides a measure of the instability of the atmosphere. The air parcel is "lifted" by moving the air parcel from the starting air pressure to the Lifting Condensation Level (dry adiabatically) and then from the Lifting Condensation Level to the finishing air pressure (wet adiabatically). Air temperature is the bulk temperature of the air. Coordinate variables of original_air_pressure_of_lifted_parcel and final_air_pressure_of_lifted_parcel should be specified to indicate the specific air pressures at which the parcel lifting starts (original air pressure) and the temperature difference is calculated at (final air pressure), respectively.

Canonical Units:K

Associated coordinate variables:

Standard_names:

original_air_pressure_of_lifted_parcel

final_air_pressure_of_lifted_parcel

Definitions:

Various stability and convective potential indices are calculated by "lifting" 
a parcel of air: moving it dry adiabatically from a starting height (often the surface) 
to the Lifting Condensation Level, and then wet adiabatically from there to an ending 
height (often the top of the data/model/atmosphere).   
original_air_pressure_of_lifted_parcel and final_air_pressure_of_lifted_parcel are the 
pressure heights at the start and end of lifting, respectively.

Canonical units: Pa

Do these names/definitions seem satisfactory to the CF board? Sincerely,

Jonathan

On 6/5/2013 3:52 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote:
Dear Jonathan W, Seth

I think
air_pressure_of_lifted_parcel_at_source
is fine. Seth wondered if _at_start_of_lifting would make it even clearer.
I'm inclined to think that isn't necessary ... but it made me think of yet
another possibility for your consideration, namely
   original_air_pressure_of_lifted_parcel
What do you think? That avoids the confusion of "origin", I think, while
still using that word, which I think Seth suggested (originally).

ambient_air_pressure_of_lifted_parcel
is no longer needed, Seth indicates.

Cheers

Jonathan
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