Dear Nan and Alison

I think Alison's view on this would be helpful in particular.

Best wishes

Jonathan

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> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:05:56 -0500
> From: Nan Galbraith <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected], "[email protected] >> Matthias Lankhorst"
>       <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for sediment trap data
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> Hello CF  -
> 
> This request for standard names for sediment trap data variables seems
> to have languished since mid-December. Are we waiting for Matthias to
> respond to comments from Roy and Jonathan, or are we ready to make
> a decision?
> 
> I may have left out some of the messages on the thread, which were not
> included in the last round of emails.
> 
> Regards - Nan
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/9/13 7:17 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote:
> >Dear All,
> >
> >My reason for including 'total' in these cases is because I've seen it used 
> >in that way by communities handling those particular parameters. Question is 
> >whether we follow CF past practice or established usage outside CF. I would 
> >prefer to follow community practice, but don't see inclusion/exclusion of 
> >total as a show-stopper. Jonathan and I (not for the first time) make the 
> >opinion score 1 all. Anybody else any views on this?
> >
> >Cheers, Roy.
> >________________________________________
> >From: CF-metadata [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan 
> >Gregory [[email protected]]
> >Sent: 08 December 2013 00:01
> >Subject: [CF-metadata]  standard names for sediment trap data
> >
> >Dear Roy
> >
> >>Thinking about it over night (I'm currently in San Diego), I think a way 
> >>forward might be to use the word 'total' in all cases, but define is as 'in 
> >>every form', which provides a common denominator between these two usages.
> >Yes, that's possible, but even simpler is to say that if nothing is 
> >specified,
> >the *default* is "in every form". I think that is the approach we have 
> >usually
> >taken, although I can't think of examples off the top of my head. I would 
> >note,
> >however, that there is only one existing standard name containing the word
> >"total" viz
> >sea_water_ph_reported_on_total_scale
> >in which "total" appears because it is the technical name of that scale.
> >(And I'm in Toronto on the way to San Francisco.)
> >
> >Best wishes
> >
> >Jonathan
> >On 12/6/13 3:24 PM, Matthias Lankhorst wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I would like to bring this discussion about new standard names for sediment
> >>trap data to a conclusion. I think what we learned from the discussion was
> >>that:
> >>
> >>- we should keep "sinking" in there, rather than "downward"
> >>- we should not include "sediment_trap" wording in the names
> >>- uncertainty remains wrt wording of silicon, silica, ...
> >>- uncertainty remains wrt including isotope ratio information
> >>
> >>
> >>As far as I can tell, the following are not subject to the above
> >>uncertainties. Are there any objections to declaring victory and accepting
> >>these into the official names list:
> >>
> >>sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_matter_in_sea_water
> >>sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_organic_matter_in_sea_water
> >>
> >>sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_organic_carbon_in_sea_water
> >>sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_inorganic_carbon_in_sea_water
> >>sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_carbon_in_sea_water
> >>
> >>sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_organic_nitrogen_in_sea_water
> >>sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_inorganic_nitrogen_in_sea_water
> >>sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_nitrogen_in_sea_water
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Uncertainties still need to be resolved before proceeding with my other
> >>suggestions below (and possible amendments thereof):
> >>
> >>sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_XXX_in_sea_water, where XXX is:
> >>  - aluminum
> >>  - iron
> >>  - phosphorous
> >>  - silica
> >>  - biogenic_silica
> >>  - lithogenic_silica
> >>  - calcium
> >>  - titanium
> >>  - manganese
> >>  - barium
> >>  - magnesium
> >>
> >>
> >>Respectfully,  Matthias
> 
> 
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