Dear Colleagues,

In december 2013, some standard names (see below) for sediment trap data parameters were almost approved.

Last august, I suggested that we can maybe consider them as approved. I had no response (so, nobody disagrees).

What is the next step in order to have them added to the official list of standard names ?


Best regards

Stéphane Tarot




Le 14/08/2015 10:45, Stephane TAROT a écrit :
Hi,

I'd like to put back this subject on top of the list.

The following 8 new parameters were almost approved in december 2013 :

sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_matter_in_sea_water
sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_organic_matter_in_sea_water

sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_organic_carbon_in_sea_water
sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_inorganic_carbon_in_sea_water
sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_carbon_in_sea_water

sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_organic_nitrogen_in_sea_water
sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_inorganic_nitrogen_in_sea_water
sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_nitrogen_in_sea_water

(with a canonical unit : kg  m-2 s-1)


There was only a remark from Roy who suggested to add "total" for

total_carbon (=organic+inorganic in its definition) and total_nitrogen in names 5 and 8

But he also said it shouldn't be a stopper to include/exclude it.


So can we agree on those new parameters, and add them to the list ?


Best regards

Stéphane Tarot




Le 04/02/2015 17:54, Jonathan Gregory a écrit :
Dear Nan and Alison

I think Alison's view on this would be helpful in particular.

Best wishes

Jonathan

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Hello CF  -

This request for standard names for sediment trap data variables seems
to have languished since mid-December. Are we waiting for Matthias to
respond to comments from Roy and Jonathan, or are we ready to make
a decision?

I may have left out some of the messages on the thread, which were not
included in the last round of emails.

Regards - Nan



On 12/9/13 7:17 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote:
Dear All,

My reason for including 'total' in these cases is because I've seen it used in that way by communities handling those particular parameters. Question is whether we follow CF past practice or established usage outside CF. I would prefer to follow community practice, but don't see inclusion/exclusion of total as a show-stopper. Jonathan and I (not for the first time) make the opinion score 1 all. Anybody else any views on this?

Cheers, Roy.
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Subject: [CF-metadata]  standard names for sediment trap data

Dear Roy

Thinking about it over night (I'm currently in San Diego), I think a way forward might be to use the word 'total' in all cases, but define is as 'in every form', which provides a common denominator between these two usages.
Yes, that's possible, but even simpler is to say that if nothing is specified, the *default* is "in every form". I think that is the approach we have usually taken, although I can't think of examples off the top of my head. I would note, however, that there is only one existing standard name containing the word
"total" viz
sea_water_ph_reported_on_total_scale
in which "total" appears because it is the technical name of that scale.
(And I'm in Toronto on the way to San Francisco.)

Best wishes

Jonathan
On 12/6/13 3:24 PM, Matthias Lankhorst wrote:
Hi,

I would like to bring this discussion about new standard names for sediment trap data to a conclusion. I think what we learned from the discussion was
that:

- we should keep "sinking" in there, rather than "downward"
- we should not include "sediment_trap" wording in the names
- uncertainty remains wrt wording of silicon, silica, ...
- uncertainty remains wrt including isotope ratio information


As far as I can tell, the following are not subject to the above
uncertainties. Are there any objections to declaring victory and accepting
these into the official names list:

sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_matter_in_sea_water
sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_organic_matter_in_sea_water

sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_organic_carbon_in_sea_water
sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_inorganic_carbon_in_sea_water
sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_carbon_in_sea_water

sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_organic_nitrogen_in_sea_water
sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_inorganic_nitrogen_in_sea_water
sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_nitrogen_in_sea_water



Uncertainties still need to be resolved before proceeding with my other
suggestions below (and possible amendments thereof):

sinking_mass_flux_of_particulate_XXX_in_sea_water, where XXX is:
  - aluminum
  - iron
  - phosphorous
  - silica
  - biogenic_silica
  - lithogenic_silica
  - calcium
  - titanium
  - manganese
  - barium
  - magnesium


Respectfully,  Matthias

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