On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Jim Biard <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's a completely valid suggestion. We have to consider implications for
> backwards compatibility. Among other things, UDUNITS would need to change
> their convention, since CF follows UDUNITS in this matter, as with all
> other units.
>
As long as UDUNITS accepts ISO-compliant strings, then we're good. And it
looks like it does.

> There's nothing that says we can't make changes. I was explaining the "is"
> as opposed to the "could be" with time units.
>
The only change I would suggest at the moment would be to "prefer"
ISO-complienat time strings, and therefore use them in the examples.

-CHB



> Grace and peace,
>
> Jim
>
> On 9/15/16 7:26 AM, Little, Chris wrote:
>
> Jim and Chris B,
>
> I would like to weigh in here, please?
>
> Adhering to UDUnits has merits, but once one adopts ISO8601-like notations, 
> as there is no way of specifying otherwise, people assume it *is* ISO8601 and 
> therefore a string without a time zone marker indicates local time (whatever 
> that is - Solar? Mean Solar? Sidereal? National legal?)
>
> There is work just starting in the OGC/ISO pipeline on how to indicate a 
> non-Gregorian calendar using ISO8601 like notation, for the WKT communities.
>
> Personally, I would advocate ISO8601 strict adherence, as most of the 
> recommended best practices and profiles, such as RFC3339, are generally 
> strict subsets of ISO 8601.
>
> Chris
>
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> I see in teh doc:
>
> Example 4.4. Time axis
>
> double time(time) ;
>   time:long_name = "time" ;
>   time:units = "days since 1990-1-1 0:0:0" ;
>
> IIUC, ISO 8601 requires two digits for the time pieces [1], so that should
> be:
>
> "days since 1990-1-1 00:00:00"
>
>
> The parser I use isn't picky about this, but maybe some are?
>
> BTW, as it's an example, we should probably throw a time offset on there,
> too:
>
> "days since 1990-1-1 00:00:00Z"
>
>
> or
>
> "days since 1990-1-1 00:00:00+00:00"
>
>
> [1] at least according to 
> wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Times
>
>
> -Chris
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