Dear Chris,

My understanding (based on memory not research of the archives) was that this 
statement was deliberate to allow a single Standard Name to cover a field that 
is spatial distribution of the velocity of a water body at the point where it 
is in contact with the atmosphere whether or not it was frozen. In other words, 
it can represent the sea-ice velocity for some cells and the surface water 
velocity for others. Checking the archives to confirm this would be advisable 
before making any change to the definition.


 Cheers, Roy.


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From: CF-metadata <[email protected]> on behalf of Chris Barker 
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Sent: 09 June 2017 00:35
To: Ute Brönner
Cc: [email protected]; Morten Omholt Alver; Tor Nordam; Jonathan Gregory
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] standard names under ice velocity of water

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:53 PM, Ute Brönner 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This is a citation of the CF standard
> The surface called "surface" means the lower boundary of the atmosphere. 
> "Water" means water in all phases, including frozen i.e. ice and snow. A 
> velocity is a vector quantity. "Eastward" indicates a vector component which 
> is positive when directed eastward (negative westward). < 
> (http://cfconventions.org/Data/cf-standard-names/28/build/cf-standard-name-table.html)

In our model we distinguish between ice velocity and the water velocity under 
the ice in addition to the (average) water velocity in the upper layer. Guess 
we would be fine if surface_eastward_sea_water_velocity and 
surface_northward_sea_water_velocity would not include ice per definition.

I"d like that too.

unfortunately, someone put ""Water means water in all phases, including frozen 
i.e. ice and snow." in that definition at some point -- can we change it now?

I wonder it was there for a real use case, or if that was a definition of 
"water" from elsewhere that got cut&pasted in...

-CHB


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