Dear Jonathan,

Thank you for commenting on these names. If I understand you correctly, then 
the two 'maximum' names and definitions would be rearranged as follows.

maximum_over_coordinate_rotation_of_sea_ice_horizontal_shear_strain_rate (s-1)
'"Sea ice" means all ice floating in the sea which has formed from freezing sea 
water, rather than by other processes such as calving of land ice to form 
icebergs. Axial strain is the symmetric component of the tensor representing 
the gradient of internal forces (e.g. in ice). Strain rate refers to 
off-diagonal element(s) of the strain tensor (a single element for horizontal 
shear strain). "Horizontal" refers to the local horizontal in the location of 
the sea ice, i.e., perpendicular to the local gravity vector. Each of the 
strain components is defined with respect to a frame of reference. "Coordinate 
rotation" refers to the range of all possible orientations of the frame of 
reference. The shear strain has a maximum value relative to one of these 
orientations. The second invariant of strain rate, often referred to as the 
maximum shear strain [rate], is the maximum over coordinate rotations of the 
shear strain rate.'

maximum_over_coordinate_rotation_of_sea_ice_horizontal_shear_stress (N m-1)
' "Sea ice" means all ice floating in the sea which has formed from freezing 
sea water, rather than by other processes such as calving of land ice to form 
icebergs. Axial stress is the symmetric component of the tensor representing 
the gradient of internal forces (e.g. in ice). Shear stress refers to 
off-diagonal element(s) of the stress tensor (a single element for horizontal 
shear stress). "Horizontal" refers to the local horizontal in the location of 
the sea ice, i.e., perpendicular to the local gravity vector. Each of the 
stress components is defined with respect to a frame of reference. "Coordinate 
rotation" refers to the range of all possible orientations of the frame of 
reference. The shear stress has a maximum value relative to one of these 
orientations. The second invariant of stress, often referred to as the maximum 
shear stress, is the maximum over coordinate rotations of the shear stress.'

I tend to agree that these are a little easier to understand at first sight. 
I'm happy to write the names and definitions this way, if Dirk and Bruno have 
no objections.

N.B. I have added 'Axial' to the start of the second sentence of the 
definitions and replaced 'stress' with 'strain' for the first definition, as 
requested by Dirk.

Best wishes,
Alison

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Gregory
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Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] SIMIP: 5 standard names and one area type for CMIP6

Dear Alison and Dirk

> It has taken me a little while to understand this name, but I am beginning to 
> grasp it!
> sea_ice_horizontal_shear_strain_rate_maximum_over_coordinate_rotation 
> (s-1)

I think the concept and definition are fine, but the name could maybe be made a 
bit clearer. The last sentence of the definition seems clearer in turning it
round: could you likewise make the name
  maximum_over_coordinate_rotation_of_sea_ice_horizontal_shear_strain_rate

?

Cheers

Jonathan
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