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>From: Arden Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Server <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: SQL Server Licensing Confusion -- and best alternative
>Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 07:25:55 -0500
>
>So -- even the M$ sales and licensing staff at their call centers gave me
>identical "wrong" information when I posed the explicit question about
>using Cold Fusion to access SQL Server backend -- they both said
>one-license, because Cold Fusion was the "user" whereas the statement
>extracted from the licensing statement you provided below states:
>
>... "Hardware or software that reduces the number of Devices directly
>accessing or using the Server Software does not reduce the number of
>required CALs. The number you need is based on the number of distinct
>inputs to the hardware or software 'front end.'"
>
>Otherwise -- 25 users simutaneously hitting Cold Fusion -- 25 CALS -- or
>the per CPU licesing option (on the box on which SQL Server is installed I
>assume).
>
>Sounds like M$ is trying its best to motivate folks like us to find the
>best "alternative" solution -- especially when their product has gotten to
>the point where it may be an "overkill" for the majority of our Cold Fusion
>applications.
>
>In that vein -- what is the "best cheaper alternative" to SQL Server?
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Aylor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 2:42 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: M$ licensing has me at wits end
>
>
>Full Product at Estimated Retail Price
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/sql/productinfo/pricing.htm
>
>SQL Server 2000Enterprise EditionStandard EditionDeveloper Edition
>
>
>Processor Licensing $19,999 US per processor$4,999 US per processor
>
>SQL Server Processor Licensing Clarification
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/sql/productinfo/multiplexing.htm
>
>With the recent introduction of Processor Licensing for the Microsoft? .NET
>Enterprise Servers, some independent software vendors (ISVs) have raised
>questions as to the proper way to license SQL Server when using it as part
>of the ISV's software application. This has particularly been an issue for
>vendors of system management tools and their customers, who have requested
>a
>more simplified licensing solution tailored for their specific needs.
>Microsoft SQL Server and System Management Tools
>As is true for all Microsoft products, SQL Server use is defined in the
>End-User Licensing Agreement (EULA) that accompanies all editions of SQL
>Server 2000 (or any previous version). There are two ways to license SQL
>Server 2000:
>Processor License
>Server and Client Access Licenses (CALs)
>The Server and CAL model is described in the EULA as follows: "SQL Server
>2000 Client Access License ('CAL') Requirements. CALs that you acquire may
>only be used in conjunction with your Server Software. You must acquire a
>separate CAL for each device that.accesses or otherwise utilizes the
>services of the Server Software."
>Additionally, there is specific language that attempts to clarify the use
>of
>applications that are installed between the end user and the SQL Server:
>"'Multiplexing.' Hardware or software that reduces the number of Devices
>directly accessing or using the Server Software does not reduce the number
>of required CALs. The number you need is based on the number of distinct
>inputs to the hardware or software 'front end.'"
>Despite this language, our ISV partners have been unclear as to exactly how
>many CALs are needed when using system management tools from vendors such
>as
>Computer Associates, BMC, NetIQ, Intel, HP (OpenView) and Microsoft
>(Systems
>Management Server).
>Recommended Procedure-Processor License
>Microsoft has implemented a processor-based licensing model to address the
>special needs of the ISV community and to simplify the licensing model.
>Under this new model, a customer acquires a Processor License for each
>processor running their server software.
>A Processor License includes access for an unlimited number of devices to
>connect from either inside the corporate LAN or WAN or outside the
>firewall.
>Customers do not need to purchase additional Server licenses or CALs. The
>Processor License is all they need.
>Based on a review of system management tool vendors and their products,
>Microsoft will communicate that the appropriate licensing method for these
>vendors is Processor Licensing.
>All system management tool vendors should communicate to their customers,
>field account managers, inside sales departments, and resellers that the
>appropriate licensing method for Microsoft SQL Server 2000 when used in
>conjunction with their product is Processor Licensing. Microsoft will be
>communicating the same message to their field account managers and
>resellers
>as well.
>
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