In the test results that you sent where did you they find a dual processor
P4 ......... According to our contact at intel they do not have one...
Or was it just a typo from AMD...lol
If you want to verify this you can call intel at 800-538-3373 , press
option 3
Don't forget you get what you pay for
S
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Benchmarks
> Compaq and HP sell them now. They are only available in single processor
> systems until next month in which the dual athlons will be out. Dell as
> usual is the only major OEM in the world who does not sell AMD chips,
> because of very close ties to Intel.
>
> So if I showed you a thousand dollars 20 times, then showed you 500
dollars
> and actually counted it out for you, you will still say it's $1000 because
> of years of experience? ok...
>
> jon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christian L. Watt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:51 PM
> Subject: RE: Benchmarks
>
>
> > Truth and reality, if AMD really was that much better, or even fairly
> close,
> > in server performance and stability, don't you think that businesses
that
> > make millions of dollars selling these machines, i.e. Dell, Compaq, and
> HP,
> > would start selling AMD superservers. I haven't seen it yet and until I
> do
> > anyone can run any test they want, but years of experience and actual
work
> > load tests will keep me with Intel for now! The price is very small
trade
> > in the grand picture!
> >
> > CW
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 2:21 PM
> > To: CF-Server
> > Subject: Re: Benchmarks
> >
> >
> > What I mean't was actually encoding the video straight from the tape
> to
> > hdd. Using realProducer or windows media encoder. For serving out the
> > video that is different. What I was going to get at is that the AMD
chip
> > speed seems more burstable while the Pentium chips are consistent. Kind
of
> > like DSL. For example try running AMD chips on a SQL server vs. a
Pentium
> > server. The AMD server might respond sometimes faster on queries but
> > othertimes very slow, it might even look like the server has locked up
at
> > certain times. This can make troubleshooting the less expensive server
> very
> > difficult. On the other hand the sql server with the pentium chips will
> run
> > very consistently with the queries, even if you get enough traffic to
set
> > the processors at 100% the machine would not appear to be locked up. I
> put
> > down video encoding in my first response because I believe that is the
> > easiest way to measure processor performance.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: Benchmarks
> >
> >
> > > I would agree that if you need to do lots of live video encoding for
a
> > web
> > > site, a P4 is probably by far the best solution. I current have a site
> > that
> > > handles 10 live encoded asf streams on a Dual P3 fine though. It's not
> > > hurting yet.
> > > However the majority of us do not encode video on our web and database
> > > servers which is why I posted to CF-Server, not a video editing list.
> > >
> > > I think though the biggest place I'd notice the difference is my
> > pocketbook.
> > > A $2000 machine beat a $8000 one. I think I'd wait that extra few
> seconds
> > if
> > > I ever encoded some video.
> > >
> > > jon
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:31 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Benchmarks
> > >
> > >
> > > > I promise you that you can tell the difference if you are doing
video
> > > > encoding.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "CF-Server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:14 AM
> > > > Subject: Benchmarks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I thought I'd post some very interesting benchmarks that I
suspected
> > to
> > > be
> > > > the case, but never have been able to confirm it myself. These are
> > > > especially enlightening to me because of the seemingly blind
adherance
> > to
> > > > Intel in the server world that we are a part of.
> > > > > AnandTech recently did a review of the new Dual P4 Xeon's. One
> > benchmark
> > > > was partcularily interesting.
> > > > > They recorded a 30 minute transaction log of their forums, which
> runs
> > > > FuseTalk. During the 30 minute recording there were: 105267 selects,
> > 4984
> > > > updates, 701 inserts and 5 deletes performed on the database. They
> then
> > > ran
> > > > the transaction logs on each of the platforms they tested.
> > > > >
> > > > > Heres what they found:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dual P4 Xeon 1.7 GHZ
> > > > > 14m 49s
> > > > > Dual P3 933 MHz
> > > > > 22m 34s
> > > > > Single P4 Xeon 1.7GHZ
> > > > > 22m 31s
> > > > >
> > > > > and the shocker
> > > > >
> > > > > Single AMD Athlon 1.2 Ghz
> > > > > 18m 6s
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is a link to the article:
> > > > > http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1472
> > > > >
> > > > > Considering the huge price gap between a dual P3 and a run of the
> mill
> > > > Athlon this seems incredible to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > My only comment wuold be, the next time you throw money at a
> problem.
> > > You
> > > > might want to throw it in the right direction!
> > > > >
> > > > > I cant say how many times, the Intel drones in this industry have
> > > > questioned me when I in passing mention that I only use AMD chips.
It
> > just
> > > > comes down to price for me, but now I can stand on firm ground and
> tell
> > > them
> > > > to go waste their money!
> > > > > Of course, someone will eventually try to pull the reliability
card.
> > It
> > > > will be of no use, I have had ammo there for a while now.
> > > > >
> > > > > jon
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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