Mark,

I would bring up perfom on the web server, add all the CF counters,
processor utilization etc and have someone hit the server and maybe that
would shed some light.  If their is a firewall in the picture, try browsing
from a remote machine on the same segment without a firewall in the picture.

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:28 AM
To: CF-Server
Subject: RE: Problems like this everyone should have


All,

I'm glad to see someone is having success with Win2k and CF5.
Unfortunately, we've been having performance problems with that exact
(almost) setup. So, let me pick your brain, and everybody else here on
the list, with some questions that I have.

Web Server is Win2k, IIS5, PIII 400Mhz, 320MB RAM, CF5 Pro, T1
connection to the Internet

We have a few apps running on this machine, but all but our Extranet are
internal apps(very little usage). The Extranet is not very large either.
I'm unsure of the daily traffic since we have no monitoring tools
(except performance monitor) <cf_gripe>. But I know we only have around
200 users in the database and not all of them are hitting at the same
time. So, the problem is that clients are complaining about the Extranet
being slow. I can confirm this from home. It's fast for me at work since
we're connected through a T3 internally and when I do a tracert from my
workstation, I only have 4 hops compared to around 20 hops from home. I
use NeoTrace at home and all the ping times are consistently low
(20-50ms).

I've also gone to the Web Server (I physically stood in front of it) and
browsed our Extranet through localhost (this way, I take the network out
of the picture) and the response time was very fast. I made sure to hit
both pages without db calls and pages with quite a few db calls.

We do use some session variables and we lock all of them. The session
variables we have store a small amount of data so I'm not to concerned
with that. I did find out yesterday that the Web Server is acting as a
PDC. I'm somewhat limited in my networking knowledge, but from what I
understand, Wind2k servers allow every server on the domain to
authenticate users, thus taking on some of the tasks that a PDC in Win
NT would do (correct me if I'm wrong). Currently, our network admins are
removing that from the server and also double-checking every service
that is running and disabling any service that's not needed.

As per an Allaire article, I've changed the number of simultaneous
requests from 5 (the default) to 3 (2 - 3x the number of processors) and
I haven't seen a difference. I've also played with the page cache, but
find that the default(1024k) is just as good as any other.

In checking the server log, I consistently see Windows NT error 232 and
109 - I've researched this on Microsoft.com and understand that those
errors may be with db calls. But I can't seem to track them down. I know
this has been covered before on the various lists, but I've been unable
to find a solution to these errors.

That's about all I can think of as far as our set-up is concerned and
the things I've done so far in my troubleshooting efforts.

I guess my question would be: Out of everything I explained above, is
there something obvious that I'm missing or not checking? In any of your
experiences before, do the problems above point to a possible network or
firewall problem? I'm just looking for some ideas on where to turn next.

Thanks in advace for any input you might have,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:16 AM
To: CF-Server
Subject: Problems like this everyone should have


Two days ago we replaced a CF server with a newer, latest greatest,
etc.,
etc.  The new machine is running Windows 2000 Server and CF5
Professional.
Most datasources are Access (I believe using MDAC 2.51 or later), a few
using dbase (Merant driver) and a few using MS SQL Server 2000.

The old server (NT4, CF4.01, MDAC 1.5 or so) had 512MB of RAM and
routinely
passed 420MB in memory usage).  We cycled the CF Application Server
nightly
and that freed up at least 100MB in memory each night.

The new server has 2GB (that's 2 GIGAbytes) of RAM.  RAM right now is
insanely inexpenive, even more so when I built the machine several weeks
ago.  So, now what do I see in terms of memory usage?  Somewhere betwee
250MB and 290MB, never higher.  I don't see the slow, gradual increase
in
memory consumption that I used to see.  Who knows what to credit - newer
ODBC drivers, ColdFusion5, or Windows 2000 itself.  Whatever the case,
it's
welcome.  What I'd like, however, is a means of turning all that unused
RAM
into increased performance.  I've already got the CF cache set to
128MBytes,
which should be overkill for something like 10MBytes worth of source
files
for the all CF templates themselves.

Any suggestions?

BTW, we had our single busiest day today, peaking at over 229kBytes per
second (in a five minute sample) of outbound traffic from this single CF
server.  It hardly broke a sweat.

Thanks,
Jim




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