> From what do you draw this conclusion?

>From testing!.
You might want to do some testing with MS-SQL Server JDBC Type IV(SP1).
MS and Data-Direct might have had some licensing deal ***before***...

The MS JDBC SP1 release is a completely different animal.
Run some tests, you can find out for yourself.

Joe Eugene


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:04 PM
> To: CF-Server
> Subject: RE: database access question
>
>
> > > > MS-SQL Server JDBC Type IV Driver(SP1), think this actually
> > > > performs better than Data-Direct.
> > >
> > > I think the MS driver is licensed from DataDirect, and is
> > > essentially the same as what you get with CFMX.
> >
> > I dont think you are right. You might want to check this.
> > http://www.datadirect-technologies.com/products/jdbc/docs/ddsq
> > lvsMS-Final.asp
> >
> > MS-SQL Server JDBC does NOT support SQL-Server 7.0, while
> > Data-Direct Drivers does, that perhaps is why CFMX includes
> > Data-Direct.
>
> I've read that before. According to it, the SQL Server JDBC driver from MS
> is licensed from DataDirect. Also, according to it, the version that
> DataDirect licensed to MS is an older version (JDBC 2.2) while the current
> version from DataDirect is newer and presumably better (JDBC 3.0,
> SQL Server
> 7 support, other goodies). However, beyond SQL Server 7 support, I don't
> know if you get any additional functionality from it within CFMX.
>
> > I havent done any testing but its likely MS JDBC Drivers
> > will perform much better than Data-Direct.
>
> From what do you draw this conclusion?
>
> > I am not sure if you have noticed, calling multiple queries
> > in a sequence in CFMX appears to be slow using SQL-Server
> > and CFMX-JDBC(Data-Direct) Connection.
>
> I haven't noticed this, but there are lots of reasons why this
> might occur,
> that may have little to do with the database driver itself. For
> example, on
> some SQL Server implementations I've seen, the ODBC connections were
> configured to use Named Pipes rather than TCP/IP, and when CF 5
> applications
> were migrated to CFMX, new problems occurred that had more to do with the
> network layer than anything else.
>
> > Can you help to do some performance testing?
> > CASE
> > 1. CFC(request scope)Data Layer has multiple queries and has
> > validation/argument parameters.
> > 2. Call queries in CFC (Maybe 3-5 queries, inserts and selects etc)
> > 3. Switch JDBC Drivers (MS-SQL Drivers and CFMX Data-Direct)
> > to get timing.
>
> Unfortunately, I'm out of the office for a while, and won't have access to
> any useful performance testing environment. But from what little I've read
> so far about JDBC, you should expect a wide range of "right"
> answers to what
> performs best, depending on what your application does, and what the
> application's environment is like (network, JVM, etc).
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
>
> 
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