Wierd, cant say I have heard of that - JRun exists in both configs just one
is not installed standalone.

 


-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn McKee
To: CF-Server
Sent: 16/06/2005 19:18
Subject: RE: CF and Jrun.exe at 99%

"If you are not running in J2EE mode that may also have a factor - in
this
guise you can get better performance over Server Config."

We tried to switch from stand alone to J2EE mode but discovered problems
instantiating Java objects.  It appears that a different loader is used
by
JRUN and MX, or at least that is what I think my Java guru said, and the
Java object which works fine in stand alone failed in J2EE mode.

Shawn McKee

-----Original Message-----
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:07 PM
To: CF-Server
Subject: RE: CF and Jrun.exe at 99%


Hey,
 
The issues you have are common (we had them as well); CFMX is no longer
a
'server' in the sense that CF5 is - it is an application which is bound
by
Java and your Server specs.  Your specifications may run fine on a
decent
spec server but when you shift to true Java and CFMX you will find that
you
may need to upgrade your RAM and maybe even devices - you sure as hell
will
need to tweak your JVM if you are running an application which is hit
pretty
hard (300-500 users at any one time).

CFMX uses around 4x the amount of RAM when conducting queries and for
long
running queries (which ran AOK on CF5) you may see it hanging as it will
not
be able to release any more threads while it conducts its queries.  It
is a
good idea not to run long running batches on CFMX - anywhere up to 2K in
a
record set can result in reduced performance.

If you are not running in J2EE mode that may also have a factor - in
this
guise you can get better performance over Server Config.

Your problem could be IIS (I suggest running IISState on it when it
hangs to
get a thread dump).  You will also want to get VisualGC running as you
may
find your application is performing a Global collection which is locking
your app.

If you have an example of what your app is doing it would help - i.e.
how
many users, what methodogoloy do you use if any (Fusebox, Mach-II etc),
what
Database are you using, are you using CFQUERY or SP's, what specs are
your
machine.

Also post your jvm,config file so we can see what is defined and
hopefully
tweak it to better suit your Application.

HTH

N







-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Walters
To: CF-Server
Sent: 16/06/2005 16:45
Subject: Re: CF and Jrun.exe at 99%

Yeah probably, but not an option right now.  It is just frustrating that

this can't work out of the box without a ton of my time.

I do see why people are using Linux/MySQL so much though.  I think that 
may be our next big move.

One thing that seems to be working so far is enabling Trusted Cache.  Is

there any CF code that will prevent a CFM page from being cached by the 
server?

Thanks....Rob

Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:

>I reckon you will find that the removal of IIS and the use of Apache
will
>prove better.
>
>We had loads of errors and troubles with IIS.   Have you updated the
Web
>Connectors with the latest patches?
>
>
>
>  
>
>  
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