That's fine Philip so post it to a list/group that specializes in this sort
of thing and let them do it.
I think everyone is trying to say this type of post doesn't belong here,
that's all.

Fred

----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip J. Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: AOL uses CF!


> > Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:31:00 -0700
> > From: Brook Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: AOL uses CF!
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Didn't your mother teach you any Manners? Postings another sites
> > vulnerability to a list of people you don't know? hmm..did you email the
> > webmaster at AOL, that would have been a better idea. Do you have a
> > website? What's the url? Can I look for hacks and post the results to a
> > list your not a member of? Would you mind. geezh.
> >
> > Also, you effectively shoot yourself in the foot when you post a hack to
a
> > CF site. If it get's hacked it looks bad on CF. They stop using CF, and
> > next thing you know your client says "I don't want to use your CF
solution
> > cause I heard AOL just got hacked and aren't using CF anymore!".
>
> I agree with you and have emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] repeatedly about the
> situation and have yet to see any results.  As for my thoughts regarding
> posting vulnerabilities to a public forum such as this listserv: a) many
> times the only way to get the attention of the offending parties (i.e.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is to tell the world (as I have yet to see a fix for
the
> AOL.com problem I reported to them many days ago.) and b) I would imagine
> that of all the places I could post this vulnerability, the people on this
> list would be least likely to exploit it, because as you said, it makes CF
> looks bad, and we don't want that.
>
> To quote the almighty l0pht:
> "Why keep the vulnerabilities secret unless you are going to exploit them,
> or perhaps trade them for something?"
> http://www.l0pht.com/~oblivion/soapbox/index.html
>
> Best,
> Phil
>
>
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