> Third and final, what is your opinion of frames? likes
> dislikes? and have
> you found any limitations to using frames. You can use the application
> browser as an excuse if you can prove that there is more than 5% use of
> other browsers in the business arena.
I'm one of those advocates for "Whatever works best for the site"...
Out of all of our sites, roughly 50-60% have frames, and with our new
technology, that's dropping... only the specifically designed sites which
have special effects on them use frames, and those do it for effect rather
than for real navigation
Check out;
http://www.in-cosmetics.com/ for a tarty effect (that menu line which was
hell to build)
http://www.mgscoachworks.com/ for a specific design ethic
We use frames on our own site (the one we're re-working now) to keep the
middle page exactly the same size - the reason? Background texture.
We've got loads of non-frame sites with differing looks, but it's the
re-laying out of complex pages with tables which slows down non-frame sites.
Limitations on Frames
(some mentioned before) Bookmarks, direct links from outside, javascript
dependance on more complex sites, search engines fail to get into site
Limitations on non-Frames
Slow load for complex pages (with tables in tables in tables etc.),
re-displaying information which stays static (menus etc.), broken table
structures which break Netscape (it's very particular)
IMHO, specific information loads quicker on a Frame site, but it does mess
some things up.
Just a few thoughts.
Philip Arnold
ASP Multimedia Limited
T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133
"Websites for the real world"
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