Agreed ... I've been working a side project in Flash, and luckily most of my time is spent in CFStudio writing ActionScript to control objects that someone else has developed in Flash. When I have to manipulate things in Flash I tend to be glad there's a punching bag in the basement! Some things just don't make sense! I think there's great application for Flash on the client end -- in this case there is no server interaction because it will be distributed on a CD -- but the everyday CF developer won't be jumping into Flash to start building their business applications.
Then again maybe it's sour grapes on my part because I'm tired of saying "I don't do graphics!" :) Dan -----Original Message----- From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda? My only issue with the "Rich Client" thing is... well... there's only one branden hall in the world and Mr. Watts, I'm sure you're doing a good job keeping him busy. Seriously, to truly be a good developer into Flash Remoting, I think we'd have to have that much knowledge, because as it stands... getting Data into Flash is easy, but I have a feeling a lot of CF developers (like myself) are going to scratch their heads and go, "Now what?" Ideally, this would be great if your business was split equally between CF / Flash MX people and you had a great team of both that could learn from each other. My problem is, that... at the company I work for, only the "partners" get to play with Flash and even then, they're hacks and... don't even know that Flash MX is out yet (nor the power they can do with it). Sigh... did I mention I'm looking for a new job? ;) ~Todd At 07:30 PM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > Is it me, or has anyone else noticed there's a REALLY strong > > push for Flash lately at all the CFUGs and conferences?? Is > > there any particular reason for this? > >Sure. MM sells CF, MM sells Flash, MM would like more money! > >On a more serious note, though, I think that MM's strategy is to push >developers into what you might call "rich client" applications. There are a >lot of limitations in what you can do with an HTML GUI. Flash goes far >beyond those limitations, allowing you to build applications that provide >significantly more functionality. The reason that web applications are >popular isn't because of the great HTML interface - it's probably close to >as bad an interface as possible. So, the logical next step is to provide >web-based applications with better interfaces. This was the original promise >of Java, if you remember back a few years. Flash is a tool which can fulfill >that promise. > > > I like Flash - don't get me wrong. But I view it as a GUI > > frill that I doubt I can sell to my clients who want a > > functional business application. Anyone here can tell me > > why/how I could sell them Flash which would be over and > > above CF development? > >It's a common programmers' mistake to think about interfaces as a "frill". >For an end-user, the interface is ALL THERE IS. Good interface design is >necessary for a good application. HTML interfaces may be passable, but I >wouldn't consider them "good" - you'd really hate to use every function on >your computer through such an interface, wouldn't you? > >So, to counteract this misunderstanding, you might show functional business >applications written in Flash to your clients. In such an application, >you'll see things that would be impractical or impossible in HTML - using >Flash to add functionality, instead of "skip intro" glitter. These >applications are out there. > >Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software >http://www.figleaf.com/ >voice: (202) 797-5496 >fax: (202) 797-5444 > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
