Well another problem is that Flash is associated as a tool for graphics
artists.  The IT departments I've been dealing with are full to the hilt
with programmers and no "creatives".  And the prejudice is you need to be a
graphics person to create any decent Flash.

Bonnie E. Betts
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?


> My only issue with the "Rich Client" thing is... well... there's only one
> branden hall in the world and Mr. Watts, I'm sure you're doing a good job
> keeping him busy.  Seriously, to truly be a good developer into Flash
> Remoting, I think we'd have to have that much knowledge, because as it
> stands... getting Data into Flash is easy, but I have a feeling a lot of
CF
> developers (like myself) are going to scratch their heads and go, "Now
what?"
>
> Ideally, this would be great if your business was split equally between CF
> / Flash MX people and you had a great team of both that could learn from
> each other.  My problem is, that... at the company I work for, only the
> "partners" get to play with Flash and even then, they're hacks and...
don't
> even know that Flash MX is out yet (nor the power they can do with it).
>
> Sigh... did I mention I'm looking for a new job? ;)
>
> ~Todd
>
> At 07:30 PM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > > Is it me, or has anyone else noticed there's a REALLY strong
> > > push for Flash lately at all the CFUGs and conferences?? Is
> > > there any particular reason for this?
> >
> >Sure. MM sells CF, MM sells Flash, MM would like more money!
> >
> >On a more serious note, though, I think that MM's strategy is to push
> >developers into what you might call "rich client" applications. There are
a
> >lot of limitations in what you can do with an HTML GUI. Flash goes far
> >beyond those limitations, allowing you to build applications that provide
> >significantly more functionality. The reason that web applications are
> >popular isn't because of the great HTML interface - it's probably close
to
> >as bad an interface as possible. So, the logical next step is to provide
> >web-based applications with better interfaces. This was the original
promise
> >of Java, if you remember back a few years. Flash is a tool which can
fulfill
> >that promise.
> >
> > > I like Flash - don't get me wrong. But I view it as a GUI
> > > frill that I doubt I can sell to my clients who want a
> > > functional business application. Anyone here can tell me
> > > why/how I could sell them Flash which would be over and
> > > above CF development?
> >
> >It's a common programmers' mistake to think about interfaces as a
"frill".
> >For an end-user, the interface is ALL THERE IS. Good interface design is
> >necessary for a good application. HTML interfaces may be passable, but I
> >wouldn't consider them "good" - you'd really hate to use every function
on
> >your computer through such an interface, wouldn't you?
> >
> >So, to counteract this misunderstanding, you might show functional
business
> >applications written in Flash to your clients. In such an application,
> >you'll see things that would be impractical or impossible in HTML - using
> >Flash to add functionality, instead of "skip intro" glitter. These
> >applications are out there.
> >
> >Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> >http://www.figleaf.com/
> >voice: (202) 797-5496
> >fax: (202) 797-5444
> >
> 
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