You say: "Its a false distinction that has a definition only within the minds of those who want to make the distinction."
Is it not you who is making the distinction? I personally don't care what someone calls themselves, until it comes to hiring. If someone comes in to my company calling themselves a programmer, I will grill them on Software Engineering principles. Its the same thing with people calling themselves "Engineers" a few years back. Everyone was an Engineer, but a **TRUE** Engineer comes from a much more strict background of disciplines, and a better mindset in solving Engineering problems. That said, I will not hire someone who touts being a programmer if all they list as their expertise is ASP, JSP, CF, PHP. I look at their schooling as well, to see if they have a CS degree...something that instills good PROGRAMMING principles, not just the ability to program. --Paul Paul W. Wille [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------- Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer --------------------------------------------------- ISITE Design, Inc. -- Senior Programmer www.isitedesign.com 615 SW Broadway, Suite 200 Portland, OR 97205 503.221.9860 x110 503.221.9865 ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists

