but you can't make a blanket statement like that - there are probably tons of part-time software companies out there.
I can certainly imagine making a small piece of software that has a ton of utility, that doesn't tax a whole bunch of resources to support. Things like an adobe acrobet plugin, a post script utility, set of specialize excel spreadsheets, formula packs for excel, and most certainly web application software. I agree with some of what you say, but disgree with its totality. You can certainly build a business while working under the security of a paid income - and depending on what you are doing you are better off doing that. Why bleed? Eric From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:58:51 -0700 But this thread is about a software company. If you read back, he wants to sell of a software product. Being a one man show part time or full time doesn't really work with a software company. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ V: 415-577-8070 F: 415-341-8906 P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:59 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Getting a business off the ground > > Oh it was definately the case during the boom, but it does still make > sense > to do it in your part time. I guess a lot depends on what you're doing. > > You don't start eBay in your spare time...it takes national advertising > compaigns etc. > > You can start a development/consulting company part time...it may take > longer...and will have less risk IMHO > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:48 PM > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground > > > > Again, I think that was true during the boom, but certainly not now. Not > > only are shmucks not being funding, but neither are many good business > > ideas. > > > > Matt Liotta > > President & CEO > > Montara Software, Inc. > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > V: 415-577-8070 > > F: 415-341-8906 > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:43 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > Yup I'd have to agree with Paul here. Any shmuck (not saying Matt is) > > can > > > convince an investor to cough up some dough. They can then burn > > through > > > it...fail..and have nothing but debt to show for it. > > > > > > The "work and build on the side" approach makes better business sense > > > IMHO. > > > > > > -You do not have the huge potential downside of losing all your money > > and > > > someone elses > > > -You are the boss > > > -You can work out some kinks that could be expensive if you were in > > full > > > swing > > > blah blah blah > > > > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > > > t. 250.920.8830 > > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > Macromedia Associate Partner > > > www.macromedia.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > > > Founder & Director > > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Paul Giesenhagen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:13 PM > > > Subject: Re: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > > > I think you are missing his point, it isn't really a matter of web > > > shops, > > > > but more of ambition and wisdom combined .. If you want to get into > > the > > > > bathroom fixtures business and work at McDonalds to support yourself > > > while > > > > building your clientile and your bathroom fixture business, then > > that is > > > > what you have to do. I would venture to say that there are a GREAT > > many > > > > people, maybe even more than the 'norm' that do it this way. > > > > > > > > I deal with folks everyday that are currently working somewhere, > > while > > > > building something else that they eventually want to do full time. > > > > > > > > Don't just limit your thinking to the techno world, hard work, > > > dedication, > > > > wisdom and alittle good common sense can help you obtain your dreams > > no > > > > matter what field. > > > > > > > > Paul Giesenhagen > > > > QuillDesign > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:00 PM > > > > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's a wonderful story, but that just isn't the norm. Sure tons > > of > > > web > > > > > shops got started that way, but it all happened during a boom. The > > > boom > > > > > is over. > > > > > > > > > > Matt Liotta > > > > > President & CEO > > > > > Montara Software, Inc. > > > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > > > > V: 415-577-8070 > > > > > F: 415-341-8906 > > > > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:54 PM > > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > > > > > Matt, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a myth and belies ambition. I started my company by > > working > > > > > part > > > > > > time at a regular company doing development, and doing contract > > work > > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > side for a year and a 1/2, building up clientele - by the time I > > > quite > > > > > my > > > > > > regular job I had fully replaced it's income and then some. I > > also > > > had > > > > > a > > > > > > solid base to launch my company full time, as well as an > > excellent > > > > > pool of > > > > > > capital - and it's gone gangbusters ever since. It just depends > > on > > > who > > > > > you > > > > > > are and where you are at in life. There's living by faith - and > > then > > > > > > there's > > > > > > wisdom. You need a balance of both to be well-rounded. > > > > > > > > > > > > -mk > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:28 PM > > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The big thing is that you have to jump all the way in. You can't > > > start > > > > > a > > > > > > company moonlighting while you work somewhere else. If you can't > > bet > > > > > > your livelihood on your business then you can't really expect > > anyone > > > > > > else to either. > > > > > > > > > > > > Matt Liotta > > > > > > President & CEO > > > > > > Montara Software, Inc. > > > > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > > > > > V: 415-577-8070 > > > > > > F: 415-341-8906 > > > > > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:53 AM > > > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > > > Subject: OT: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have started my own company a while ago and am hitting a > > brick > > > > > wall > > > > > > on > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > to get it off the ground. It's hard to do absolutely > > everything > > > > > > myself, so > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > throw this out to some of you that have your own company. What > > did > > > > > you > > > > > > do? > > > > > > > Did you start with money? Hire people? Do everything yourself? > > > Have > > > > > a > > > > > > kick > > > > > > > ass product that got you off the ground? Cold called people? > > Sent > > > > > out > > > > > > a > > > > > > > mailing? What did you do? I have an application I made that is > > > > > pretty > > > > > > > polished and am just looking for ideas on how to get this > > thing > > > out > > > > > > the > > > > > > > door > > > > > > > to people as either a service or as a stand alone app people > > can > > > > > buy. > > > > > > WHAT > > > > > > > DO I DO!!!!!! Anyways, sorry for the OT, flame away, but I > > figure > > > > > > there > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > to be a couple other people that could benefit from this > > > discussion, > > > > > > let > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > know if this needs to move over to cf-community so I can sign > > up > > > for > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Everland III > > > > > > > Web Developer Extraordinaire > > > > > > > Dixon Ticonderoga Company > > > > > > > http://www.dixonusa.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
