>>Most startups fail, period.
Geez Dave, could you tone it down it a little. your going to make me cry. 
jk.

As I was leaving my last job, my now former boss, still feeling a little 
hurt because his investment funding got cut, said to me, "well I have always 
heard it takes 3 tries to start a successful business. Next time should be 
the ticket..." (He just came from another startup - albeit an internal 
telecom startup - so there was no risk.)

I had always heard that number was 7.

Eric

From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:48:46 -0400

 > > That's a wonderful story, but that just isn't the norm.
 > > Sure tons of web shops got started that way, but it all
 > > happened during a boom. The boom is over.
 >
 > Didn't happen during the boom - it happened at the beginning
 > of the bust... not boom... bust...... you sure assume a lot.

I find it interesting that everyone here is so used to Matt's abrasiveness
that they're assuming he's being arrogant now. I don't think that he is.
He's just stating the obvious, and his responses don't strike me as arrogant
at all.

If you're starting a business now, it's a lot harder than it was a year and
a half ago. I don't think that's such a controversial statement. It was
unnaturally easy to start a business during the internet boom, and now it's
not. You may have been successful in doing so, but that doesn't mean that
you're typical. Most startups fail, period.

Entrepreneurship always struck me as being similar to the life of a salmon
during spawning season - you're constantly swimming upstream, giving your
all, until you either make it or die from exhaustion. (Never mind the fact
that the salmon dies anyway, even if successful.) It's a difficult life, and
requires a considerable drive that many people just don't have. Most who do
have that drive will still fail. The amount of energy usually required to
create a functioning business from scratch should not be underestimated, and
half-measures don't usually work with startups - after all, if you're
working on something part-time, how will you compete with the person who's
doing it full-time, as if his life depended on it? (Which, in a way, it
does.)

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444



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