I didn't write building performance parts, I wrote adding performance
parts. I know shit about mechanics and was able to add a turbocharger to
my car.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:37 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: learning C? (was by example (was RE:
http://examples.macromed
> ia.com/coldfusion/examples/ down??)
> 
> I dunno...I'd say anyone making performance parts would have a strong
> background in building engines in order to know how to truly
optimize...
> 
> How about C = building the engine...and CF building the frame of the
car
> and
> body panels to give it shape? LoL
> 
> Stace
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:23 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: learning C? (was by example (was RE:
> http://examples.macromedia.com/coldfusion/examples/ down??)
> 
> I can't really think of a better analogy. Maybe something along the
> lines of a mechanic adding performance parts to an engine to a
mechanic
> building an engine would be like a CF programmer to a C programmer.
> 
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> 888-408-0900 x901
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:14 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: learning C? (was by example (was RE:
> > http://examples.macromedia.com/coldfusion/examples/ down??)
> >
> >   It was the only thing I can think of on short notice.  Do you have
a
> > better one?  Or, if I am completely off base, do you care to further
> > explain your original thought?
> >
> > At 10:54 AM 9/9/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >I don't really think that analogy works as it would mean CF and
Java
> > >programmers were just drivers.
> > >
> > >Matt Liotta
> > >President & CEO
> > >Montara Software, Inc.
> > >http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > >888-408-0900 x901
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:43 AM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: learning C? (was by exmaple (was RE:
> > > > http://examples.macromedia.com/coldfusion/examples/ down??)
> > > >
> > > >   If you know how to build a car engine, won't that make you a
> better
> > >car
> > > > owner?  Many would say yes.  Knowledge of how to build a car
> engine
> > >will
> > > > also give you knowledge of how to maintain it and why it should
be
> > > > maintained etc.. etc..
> > > >   I know I'm supposed to get my oil changed every three to six
> > >thousand
> > > > miles, but I don't have the foggiest idea why, and let it slide
> more
> > >often
> > > > than not.
> > > >
> > > >   The same concept can apply to programming.  I think what Matt
> was
> > > > getting
> > > > at.
> > > >
> > > >   On a more specific note.  I spoke to one of my professors when
> > >leaving
> > > > college about the fact that the introductory CS courses were
> moving
> > >into
> > > > Java as a language instead of Pascal.
> > > >
> > > >   When I took CS101, I created a Stack ADT in Pascal.  I
> specifically
> > > > implemented each procedure (Push, Pop, StackNew, IsStackEmpty,
> etc.. )
> > >and
> > > > learned different approaches to take to make it all work.
> > > >
> > > >   Moving into Java, the students no longer have to create a
Stack
> ADT,
> > > > they
> > > > merely have to create an instance of the stack class and all the
> > >methods
> > > > are already there.
> > > >
> > > >   Are they learning as much in the second approach as they will
> from
> > >the
> > > > first?  I doubt it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 12:53 PM 9/9/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > > > Matt wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A CF programmer already should have an understanding
> > > > > > of programming logic. Simply picking up another
> > > > > > garbage collected language with lots of built-in
> > > > > > functionality it only a matter of learning syntax.
> > > > > > With C that is not the case.
> > > > > >
> > > > >I'm a little confused...
> > > > >
> > > > >Besides a deep appreciation for the garbage collector
> > > > >and a badge that says I'm a real programmer what do I
> > > > >gain by learning about all of the "nuts and bolts"?
> > > > >
> > > > >Patrick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
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