Jesse
I appreciate your answer, and it does surprise me!
I have no experience with win2k, but was put off by winXP's constant
nagging (kinda' reminds me of myself).
Why XP over 2k?
I will use some Java also.
I have been experimenting with JEdit -- it appears to be a great editor.
I especially like the ability to fold (compress and expand)
independent portions of a program or document (based on indentation or
user-supplied information).
I also use ViennaSQL as a general-purpose GUI SQL Client. You can
interface any db with a JDBC driver, and interactively do such things
as:
define connections (similar to define datasources in the CF admin)
create/drop databases
create/alter/drop tables
examine schemas
issue SQL commands
I find it to be a great development tool - you can interactively create
and validate complex SQL, then copy/paste it to your CF code.
I mention JEdit and ViennaSQL because I think that both these functions
are performed by DWMX on non-Mac platforms.
I understand the advantage of using 1 integrated tool, but does DWMX
provide the same functions (and provide them as well) as JEdit and
ViennaSQL.?
Finally, is PostgreSQL available for win -- I heard somewhere that it
is not?
Thanks
Dick
On Wednesday, September 11, 2002, at 07:07 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
> Dick-
>
> You wanted a serious reply, I'll give you a serious answer. Go with
> the following:
>
> WindowsXP
> Apache
> MySQL/Postgres
> CFMX <- duh
> DWMX
>
> There ya go. There's your demo, there's your development platform. The
> fact is that you probably DO NOT want to go with a Linux laptop. Why?
>
> 1: The desktop sucks
> 2: Too many concessions when it comes to just getting stuff done
> 3: eXtreme learning curve, preventing you from just getting work done
> 4: It's more supported than the Linux desktop
>
>
> This comes from someone who had been using Linux since he first
> downloaded Slackware v1 ontot 4.1 trillion floppy disks. I run it as a
> desktop, and I HATE it as a desktop. It's kludgy, mozilla sucks as a
> browser, software support is crap, and I could continue.
>
> Yes, I am a Linux user and supporter, as a SERVER, not as a desktop,
> much less a "full blown" development and demo platform. It's that
> simple.
>
>
> I've ran Linux on oh, I dunno, about 20 laptops in the past 3 years.
> I've disliked, nay, hated it each and every time, it truly is a
> nightmare.
>
> Leave Unix and Linux where they truly shine, on the server. Put
> windows where it belongs, on a desktop where the Shiny widgets can be
> of some use.
>
> Jesse Noller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Macromedia Server Development
> Unix/Linux "special guy"
>
> "But I neeeeed tacos! I need them or I will
> explode! That happens to me sometimes!" -GIR
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 3:20 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: Developer Platform suggestions was Re: Nice
>>
>> Jesse
>>
>> Knowing some of your platform preferences, I don't think that is a
>> serious answer -- the original question is serious, though!
>>
>> Dick
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 10:57 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
>>
>>> I would highly recommend OS2/Warp 4
>>>
>>> Jesse Noller
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Macromedia Server Development
>>> Unix/Linux "special guy"
>>>
>>> "But I neeeeed tacos! I need them or I will
>>> explode! That happens to me sometimes!" -GIR
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:37 PM
>>>> To: CF-Talk
>>>> Subject: RE: Developer Platform suggestions was Re: Nice
>>>>
>>>> IMHO, I'd go with Linux. Not only does CF run the best on Linux, but
>>>> you
>>>> also have access to any kind of text editor/IDE you could want. Many
>>>> of
>>>> them are way better than DMX, which isn't saying much I know, but
>>>> there
>>>> it is. Plus, Linux is as stable as it gets and is free.
>>>>
>>>> Matt Liotta
>>>> President & CEO
>>>> Montara Software, Inc.
>>>> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
>>>> 888-408-0900 x901
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM
>>>>> To: CF-Talk
>>>>> Subject: Re: Developer Platform suggestions was Re: Nice
>>>>>
>>>>> I've used Windows 9x and they worked okay as long as you rebooted
>>>>> at
>>>>> least once a day (preferably twice).
>>>>>
>>>>> I use Windows 2000 now. I've had few problems and the system is
>>>> very
>>>>> stable, even if I don't reboot it for 3-4 days.
>>>>>
>>>>> At 10:12 AM 9/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>>> Ya' know, it gets pretty old... I am beginning to accept the fact
>>>> that
>>>>>> as a Mac/CF developer, I will always be a second-class citizen,
>>>>>> and
>>>> not
>>>>>> have equal resources with the competition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I am open to suggestions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you could chose a platform today, with no baggage, what would
>>>>>> it
>>>> be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am seriously looking for suggestions!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 09:56 AM, Stephen Moretti
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't work on a Mac -- why doesn't that surprise me?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dick
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:18 AM, Bryan F. Hogan
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://cfm.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What easter egg?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At 11:10 AM 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I like the CF Easter Egg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok I shouldn't really do this on CF-Talk, but I can't resist.....
>>>>>>> Sorry
>>>>>>> Michael.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anything work on a Mac???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry Dick.... Only joking!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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